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Old 10-16-2008, 05:24 PM
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No Affrrayer attacks the poster not the issue the poster takes. He shoots the messanger.
Yeah, I do try to avoid that. Don't always succeed but there you are.

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And we have your word for that...
Anyone can look at the source and tell you that. Here's the link:

<title>Sen. John S. McCain - Is McCain a Patriot or is he a Traitor? You decide.

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Demand and deny...
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Demand and deny...
That was neither a demand nor a denial. It was a question, which, unsurprisingly, you declined to answer.

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Why? Are you saying you like Bush voters?
Obscuring the real issue.

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Hahahahahahahahahahahaha....that the best you can do?
I dunno, I mean, I thought it was a pretty good one. Sorry you didn't agree.

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And now you lie...well that's par for the course.
A good try. Seems that no one but you thinks the same way, though.

I'm done with this little chat, though it was quite illustrative. Even when I post to agree with you--and this has happened--you find some tiny, petty little point of divergence and balloon it into a huge issue. You're no different when someone actually disagrees with you; all you do is make the small things into big ones while ignoring the things that are important.
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:58 PM
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The Truth Seeker - "Hero" John McCain as Phony and Collaborator

"War is one thing, collaborating with the enemy is another; it is a legitimate campaign issue that strikes at the heart of McCain's character. . .or lack thereof. In occupied countries like Iraq, or France in World War II, collaboration to that extent spells an automatic death sentence.. .

The question is: What kind of collaborator was John McCain, the admitted war criminal who will hate the Vietnamese for the rest of his life?

"Put it another way: how psychologically twisted is McCain? And what actually happened to him in his POW camp that twisted him? Was it abuse, as he claims, or was it the fact that he collaborated and has to cover up? Covering-up can take a lot of energy. The truth is lurking there in his subconscious, waiting to explode. "

"McCain had a unique POW experience. Initially, he was taken to the infamous Hanoi Hilton prison camp, where he was interrogated. By McCain's own account, after three or four days he cracked. He promised his Vietnamese captors, "I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital ...

"His Vietnamese captors soon realized their POW, John Sidney McCain III, came from a well-bred line in the American military elite. . .The Vietnamese realized, this poor stooge has propaganda value. The admiral's boy was used to special treatment, and his captors knew that. They were working him."

". . .two weeks into his stay at the Vietnamese hospital, the Hanoi press began quoting him. It was not 'name rank and serial number, or kill me'. as specified by the military code of conduct. McCain divulged specific military information: he gave the name of the aircraft carrier on which he was based, the number of U.S. pilots that had been lost, the number of aircraft in his flight formation, as well as information about the location of rescue ships."

"…McCain was held for five and half years. The first two weeks' behavior might have been pragmatism, but McCain soon became North Vietnam's go-to collaborator …..McCain cooperated with the North Vietnamese for a period of three years. His situation isn't as innocuous as that of the French barber who cuts the hair of the German occupier. McCain was repaying his captors for their kindness and mercy.

"This is the lesson of McCain's experience as a POW: a true politician, a hollow man, his only allegiance is to power. The Vietnamese, like McCain's campaign contributors today, protected and promoted him, and, in return, he danced to their tune. . ."
Hollow politician, I couldn't have said it better myself....
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Old 10-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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Today, the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America released its congressional scorecard for the 110th Congress, and awarded McCain a grade of “D” for his votes against veterans’ priorities. The grade makes McCain one of only four Senators to fall on IAVA’s “D List” — and marks a repeat performance for him, after receiving a “D” for his 109th congressional voting record as well.
He may have fooled you but those who count, the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America have spoken.

McCain's complete record is phoney including his claims that “I’ll take care of them. And they know I’ll take care of them.”

It's all fake including his war record. He ain't no hero.....
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McCain's attack on vets - Los Angeles Times

MORE THAN A FEW people have been puzzled by Sen. John McCain's dogged opposition to the updated GI Bill of Rights now before Congress. The dissonance between McCain's military-man image and his actions on this issue have introduced a jarring note to his presidential aspirations -- and have highlighted the shoddy treatment many Iraq war veterans have received.
First McCain claims he supports the surge and then he stabs the vets in the back....a true republican.
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