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Old 10-02-2008, 07:42 AM
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Default McCain Votes YES To More Spending!

McCain, who brags about cutting spending, was front and center voting yes on the new pork laden bail out bill.

Senate bailout bill adds sweeteners - Economy in Turmoil - MSNBC.com

That's not all about McCain
The Raw Story | McCain took Palin foreign policy advice 'many times'

John McCain told NPR's Steve Inskeep that he has turned to his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for foreign policy advice "many times" and wouldn't trust Sens. Obama and Biden because "they've been wrong."
Considering that Citizens For Global Solutions give McCain an "F" rating, who is he to say others are wrong?

I hereby give McCain the ranking of "Prodigious Farter."
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Old 10-02-2008, 08:37 AM
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McCain, who brags about cutting spending, was front and center voting yes on the new pork laden bail out bill.

Senate bailout bill adds sweeteners - Economy in Turmoil - MSNBC.com

That's not all about McCain
The Raw Story | McCain took Palin foreign policy advice 'many times'
John McCain told NPR's Steve Inskeep that he has turned to his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, for foreign policy advice "many times" and wouldn't trust Sens. Obama and Biden because "they've been wrong."
Considering that Citizens For Global Solutions give McCain an "F" rating, who is he to say others are wrong?

I hereby give McCain the ranking of "Prodigious Farter."
Yes, the Senate bill added a whole bunch of "sweeteners" entirely unrelated to the purpose of the bill.

What really pisses me off about the bill, besides all those "sweeteners" being added, is that Barbara Boxer, Senator from the land of the Californicators, said to her fellow senators that out of the 90,000-95,000 calls and e-mails she received from Californicators, 85,000 of them were opposed to the bill. Yet she still voted for the damned thing! We elect these people to represent us and yet they insist on going against the will of the people. I could understand if the calls were fairly evenly for and against (maybe within a 5-point margin) but when your constitutents are so overwhelmingly against something, you really should do what your constituents are telling you.

As for your entirely UNRELATED crap: "Considering that Citizens For Global Solutions give McCain an "F" rating, who is he to say others are wrong?" Who the hell is Citizens for Global Solutions that I should give a rat's behind what they think? I will give you this much (though you're not deserving of even this), since both McCain and Obama are big government, nanny-stater interventionists who insist the United States must project power over the rest of the world, neither of them are in a position to criticize the other.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:06 AM
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Yes, the Senate bill added a whole bunch of "sweeteners" entirely unrelated to the purpose of the bill.

What really pisses me off about the bill, besides all those "sweeteners" being added, is that Barbara Boxer, Senator from the land of the Californicators, said to her fellow senators that out of the 90,000-95,000 calls and e-mails she received from Californicators, 85,000 of them were opposed to the bill. Yet she still voted for the damned thing! We elect these people to represent us and yet they insist on going against the will of the people. I could understand if the calls were fairly evenly for and against (maybe within a 5-point margin) but when your constitutents are so overwhelmingly against something, you really should do what your constituents are telling you.

As for your entirely UNRELATED crap: "Considering that Citizens For Global Solutions give McCain an "F" rating, who is he to say others are wrong?" Who the hell is Citizens for Global Solutions that I should give a rat's behind what they think? I will give you this much (though you're not deserving of even this), since both McCain and Obama are big government, nanny-stater interventionists who insist the United States must project power over the rest of the world, neither of them are in a position to criticize the other.
Chan you have to remember that we are all just a bunch of stupid people, Government knows what to do! I completely agree with all of these obscure group ratings from people you have never heard of. I guess it depends on how a given media outlet is slanted that dictates what group is giving the candidates what grade.
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I guess it depends on how a given media outlet is slanted that dictates what group is giving the candidates what grade.
Especially when it comes to McCain who is rating himself...
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And so does Obama, big friggin' deal.
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out of the 90,000-95,000 calls and e-mails she received from Californicators, 85,000 of them were opposed to the bill. Yet she still voted for the damned thing! We elect these people to represent us and yet they insist on going against the will of the people.
I am dimly remembering something from a distant poli-sci class, in high school, I think, about two basic theories of representative governance: the "mirror theory" versus the "Burkean theory".

Absolutely correct me if I am wrong, but the mirror theory is where the representatives faithfully represent the will of their constituents, even if they personally disagree, whereas the Burkean is where the representative presumes to act on behalf of the people, as a "better" person, a wiser one, and shouldn't give in to crass populism of the uneducated masses.

I guess it all depends on whether the people represented have any idea what they want, or not.

Anyway, that's how I read this, that the Congresscritters firmly believe they know better than the people do, on this (not that they take much time to explain anything to us.....)
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And so does Obama, big friggin' deal.
I don't recall Obama making the same kind of bravado claims as McCain. Do you have any examples?
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