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Old 09-27-2008, 05:36 AM
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Improving democratic outcomes - I think that is a compelling argument.
That isn't what incumbent parties desire. They don't represent our interests. They represent the interests of their corporate masters.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:51 PM
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Ah, so wealth correlates with intelligence. You have a slim definition of success if this is so.
No, wealth does not correlate with intelligence. But most poor people are like most Americans: stupid sheeple who vote based on those little 10-second soundbites the media feeds them.
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Old 09-27-2008, 03:59 PM
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Ah, so wealth correlates with intelligence. You have a slim definition of success if this is so.
Chan is starting to come off as a Social Darwinist.

Lower-income groups are less likely to vote because few politicians actually care about their plight. It's all about the top 20%.
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Old 09-29-2008, 11:59 AM
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That is weak. An election on Tuesday is excellent if you want to eliminate the poorest voters from showing up. Bussing in to a polling station on their way to their second job... good luck.

Only in America (quite possibly literally!)

Early voting is at least possible in "some" states.
Since when do the poor vote?
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I have been a subscriber to these people's vids for a while now. They have been working on this subject for quite a while..

Why Tuesday?
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:59 PM
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Chan is starting to come off as a Social Darwinist.
I do, to some extent, believe in
Social Darwinism. "In fact, the early Social Darwinists, who regarded the theory as a logical extension of laissez-faire capitalism, would have been appalled at the use of the concept to promote state-run eugenics programs...Belief in Social Darwinism tended to discourage wanton handouts to the poor, favoring instead providing resources for the fittest of all walks of life to use, or choosing specific, genuinely deserving people as recipients of help and support. Some major capitalists, such as Andrew Carnegie, combined philanthropy with Social Darwinism; he used his vast fortune to set up hundreds of libraries and other public institutions, including a university, for the benefit of those who would choose to avail themselves of such resources. He opposed direct and indiscriminate handouts to the poor because he felt that this favored the undeserving and the deserving person equally."

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Lower-income groups are less likely to vote because few politicians actually care about their plight. It's all about the top 20%.
And the few poor people who do vote stupidly believe the lies the politicians tell them.
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"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

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"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

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Besides, most poor folks are too damned lazy to get off their backsides to even vote.

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I don't know whether to cry or to just laugh.
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Since when do the poor vote?
What are the reasons for that? Obviously apathy is one of them, but there are others too, some disenfranchising.

The vested interests are not served by democracy. To mitigate, as best as possible, the likelihood of poor votes altering the balance of power away from their interests is a deliberate strategy.
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