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Old 09-20-2008, 01:46 AM
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What the author is claiming as "white privilege" is nothing more than the spin the McCain camp is putting forth as part of its campaign propaganda. This has has nothing to do with any sort of racial privilege.
I understand what they're talking about - but I see it as more of a class issue than a race one
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Old 09-20-2008, 01:54 AM
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I am not being a pussy ViolaLee. The whole thing is stupid bullsh!t. You are telling me that you agree that everything is the White mans fault?

Guess what, I have a child out of wedlock and still am not married. Members of my own family have told me it was disapointing and I was not being responsible. So its a two way street, do not try and tell me that its a minority only problem.

I cannot speak for Limbaugh or Hannity, but in my opinion it is a private matter. Their is no reason to be throwing children onto the stage and using them as a political talking point. You could be black, brown, green, blue or even Evil White and I would still say its private.
I tend to agree with you on this, except the way they are using her as a prop is rather disquieting. Leave the kds out of it is the best choice - but I keep seeing Bristol waving from the stage with her parents.

Why do I have the feeling that if Chelsea Clinton had been the one with the big belly, repubs would not have backed off. Oh yeah - Rush Limbaugh holding up her picture on national tv and calling her the family dog. This was a unpregnant 13 year old whose only sin was her birth.

So I can agree it's not race - just self righteous dickheads who only excuse their own.
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I'm with Viola lee Racism and White privilege are a fact and many white people are totally blind to it. I have seen the double standards that are rampant in this society and ignoring them or just denying that they exist has nothing to do with reality.
I come from a multi-racial family, I know my nephew has had to go wash graffiti off the fence saying "****** go home.' and other hateful things. Had my brother not adopted two multiracial children, I would be very unaware of the fact that racism is so real and prevalent.

But I see how Kyle is treated - just the body language white people tend to have, when we go into a restaraunt, or a store.
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So saying that "anyone who has been robbed by a black teen knows how fleet-footed they are" or that 95% of black males in the country are criminals is not racist? What? It's pretty ****ty of you to accuse me of lying when those statements were posted by him in his newsletter.

And just declaring that they are different things and that it isn't about race doesn't make it that way, buddy. I may be white but I know racism when I see it.
If only he said that....
You know as well as I do that he was not the author of that and has made a public statement saying that does not represent his views. Along with the the accounts of everyone that knows him saying that they have never heard anything remotely racist from him.

Apparently you don't. Don't let bias get the better of you. You are trying to compare extremely violent rioters to the support of gun rights.
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Old 09-20-2008, 02:32 AM
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Who's blaming McCain? Wow, such the victim......

This is about the difference in being black or white in America.



Only to a white man.



Exactly.

Some of us are empathetic and can try to imagine how it must be as a black person in America.

Others of us would rather pretend it's not there.

This article is to make you think about the different scenarios and imagine if the tables were turned. White people can do and say certain things and it's OK! If black people did and said the same exact things, there is a different reaction.
Ha, about being black or white. Give me a break. You did actually read your article right? It was entirely about McCain and comp. McCain is white so... It was a simple biased attack using race, a poor one at that.

Sure....

BS you know damn well you brought this up to support your bud and to attack your enemy. The stench of bias is obvious to one that can look at that objectively.
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Ha, about being black or white. Give me a break. You did actually read your article right? It was entirely about McCain and comp. McCain is white so... It was a simple biased attack using race, a poor one at that.

Sure....

BS you know damn well you brought this up to support your bud and to attack your enemy. The stench of bias is obvious to one that can look at that objectively.
Why is it considered wrong to come to a political bulletin board with an agenda? Doesn't just about everyone?

Do you disagree that the two parties play a different sort of politics - repubs have it all over dems at creating good insults and making them stick. I think the article attributes a fair amount to race when it could be attributed to class - but I do know racism still exists, too.
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Why is it considered wrong to come to a political bulletin board with an agenda? Doesn't just about everyone?

Do you disagree that the two parties play a different sort of politics - repubs have it all over dems at creating good insults and making them stick. I think the article attributes a fair amount to race when it could be attributed to class - but I do know racism still exists, too.
Its not, but letting that agenda cloud thought with bias has obvious problems.

I think both parties are good at creating insults and making them stick. No one is saying racism does not exist, just that the things in the article are not factors of race. It is an article attempting to make things about race.
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Why do I have the feeling that if Chelsea Clinton had been the one with the big belly, repubs would not have backed off. Oh yeah - Rush Limbaugh holding up her picture on national tv and calling her the family dog. This was a unpregnant 13 year old whose only sin was her birth.

So I can agree it's not race - just self righteous dickheads who only excuse their own.
they didn't.. you are making things up.. .. and they would not because Conservatives celebrate life. Leftists feel that a baby is a punishment.. 'punished with a baby".. YO-bama said it... the only good baby is an abortion...


This whole thread is about race and is totaly ridiculous.. We know that when Obama loses we will be told it is because America is racists..

When in fact, America simply rejects a Marxist for its president.
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the only good baby is an abortion...
That's a sickening thing to say, as well as being false.
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VL, I am inclined to agree with you.

Folks on here tend to be far more dismissive and enlightened/careful about race issues than plenty of other Americans. When that curtain closes, and nobody can see how you vote, I am willing to bet all the tiptoeing goes out the window, and McCain wins.

I don't have a lot of faith that we are truly ready for a black President. This race simply shouldn't be this tight.
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