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Old 09-03-2008, 10:55 PM
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If there is a problem with taxes, then why do I pay the IRS a shhitload of money every year?
They are "supposed" to have problems with taxes.

Of course, many of the so-called conservatives in power now really see nothing wrong with taxes.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:59 AM
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They are "supposed" to have problems with taxes.

Of course, many of the so-called conservatives in power now really see nothing wrong with taxes.
And you think when Democrats are in power the taxes get lowered? Does the present congress see anything wrong with taxes. I don't think so. Taxes are here to stay, no matter what party is calling the shots. Of course, my understanding is that Obama has a lot more taxes in store for us if he is elected. Please correct me if I am wrong on this point.

When you get to the point that you have to pay MAJOR taxes on your earnings, then you might see my point.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:03 AM
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And you think when Democrats are in power the taxes get lowered? Does the present congress see anything wrong with taxes. I don't think so. Taxes are here to stay, no matter what party is calling the shots. Of course, my understanding is that Obama has a lot more taxes in store for us if he is elected. Please correct me if I am wrong on this point.

When you get to the point that you have to pay MAJOR taxes on your earnings, then you might see my point.
You are. Kind of.

The total amount McCains plan proposes adds up to more, but most of that comes from the top teir only.

Anyone who makes less then 111k a year will get more in tax cuts on Obama's plan.

and will still get a cut up to 226k under Obamas plan.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:04 AM
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Governors are often times placed in a position that they must raise taxes. I do not think this enough to pull out the smears. She did cut spending quite allot.
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Old 09-04-2008, 01:27 AM
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You are. Kind of.

The total amount McCains plan proposes adds up to more, but most of that comes from the top teir only.

Anyone who makes less then 111k a year will get more in tax cuts on Obama's plan.

and will still get a cut up to 226k under Obamas plan.
It means that I am kind of right, too. Thanks for the info.
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Will this be the death knell? Can repubs support this new tax policy?!
I don't see why. After all Palin was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:01 AM
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Again with the smears that you just denounced. Obama's plan has already shown that 98.9% of americans will not get a tax raise under Obama's plan.
Obama's plan is a ruse! We all know that if Obama gets elected his plan is going to be cast aside and Congress is going to repeal the Bush tax cuts (which was a tax cut for EVERYONE, not just the rich), which is raising everyone's taxes.

It doesn't really matter what McCain or Obama say they're going to do, it only matters what they can convince Congress to pass.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Obama's plan is a ruse! We all know that if Obama gets elected his plan is going to be cast aside and Congress is going to repeal the Bush tax cuts (which was a tax cut for EVERYONE, not just the rich), which is raising everyone's taxes.
Those 'tax cuts' will simply expire. They won't 'raise' taxes...they simply won't extend the temporary cuts that were placed some years back.

Playing politics with people's lives.....

Perhaps the 'minimum wage' that, congress always wishes to argue over, should be the amount that they themselves get paid. In doing so, they would be less likely to hang around in DC stripping us of more rights and money, as they would find it necessary to go get another job.

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Obama's plan is a ruse! We all know that if Obama gets elected his plan is going to be cast aside and Congress is going to repeal the Bush tax cuts (which was a tax cut for EVERYONE, not just the rich), which is raising everyone's taxes.

It doesn't really matter what McCain or Obama say they're going to do, it only matters what they can convince Congress to pass.
Getting his plan through congress will not be easy. But with no facts you are just sharing your opinion.

He would have pulled back the top tier tax rate, had this been a ruse. But he embedded in his tax plan an over all hike. And in doing that, he showed this is actually what he plans to do.
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Old 09-04-2008, 12:49 PM
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Those 'tax cuts' will simply expire. They won't 'raise' taxes...they simply won't extend the temporary cuts that were placed some years back.
The taxes will increase from their current level: that's a tax increase.

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Playing politics with people's lives.....

Perhaps the 'minimum wage' that, congress always wishes to argue over, should be the amount that they themselves get paid. In doing so, they would be less likely to hang around in DC stripping us of more rights and money, as they would find it necessary to go get another job.

Ah, yes, the minimum wage that keeps on devaluing the wages of the middle class because the middle class doesn't get wage increases to maintain the distance from the minimum they had before.
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