Why do you believe that I am wrong in my view that a shooting war with Iran is an inevitability? Is it because you actually believe that the mullahs are cost-benefit-ratio pragmatists, much like the leaders in the Kremlin during the Cold War, rather than the apocalyptic zealots that I believe them to be? Is it because you believe these folks are amenable to persuasion and rational discussion, rather than swayed by a greatly heightened sense of eschatological imminence? Or what?

What if you were one of the ones who had to fight and possibly die in such a war?

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If this is your idea of a rebuttal, you have much to learn about logical argumentation.

Oh, and for the record: I hardly consider myself "macho" (in fact, I have never considered machismo an attractive characteristic). But I emphatically do consider myself a "nationalist"--another word for which is, patriot--as regarding which, I will certainly offer no apologies.

The coming war with Iran, that I see as an inevitability, is very unlikely to involve ground troops. (That is, except to the extent that Iran unleashes its proxy, Hezbollah, against American troops in Iraq.) I simply cannot imagine America's finding a need to put boots on the ground in Iran.

No, it will be a war involving bombs and missiles--not columns of tanks and troops on the march.

In any case, I would much rather that war take place before Iran acquires nuclear capability, as a complement to the mullahs' apocalyptic zealotry.

Wouldn't you?

Yeah, but the broken window fallacy?? ;)

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And you realize how foolish it is to be a nationalist, yes?

Who told you we'd be having a war with Iran any time soon?

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Interesting take, and I applaud the effort to give misfortune a silver lining....

....but seeing as this is the internet, where everything is taken to absurdist, illogical extremes......are you espousing a national policy of wanton property destruction as a method of economic stimulus?

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Indeed

I have added the book to my reading list

Although What I draw from the paragraph is go ahead throw a rock it ends up a wash. although the rock has removed the Bakers freedom to use his money the way he wants to.

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That is a rhetorical flourish, not a serious argument; and it therefore requires no refutation.

In any case, if you consider patriotism foolish (and again, that is just another name for nationalism), our most fundamental assumptions are roughly 180 degrees apart.

The term "any time soon" is capable of infinite interpretations (well, maybe not infinite; but a heckuva lot of them, anyway). So if you mean next week, next month, or even next year, I would agree that it is doubtful; although next year is considerably less improbable than the other two options listed.

As to the "[w]ho," I would strongly suggest (as I have in a previous post) Kenneth R. Timmerman's 2005 book, Countdown to Crisis: The coming Nuclear Showdown with Iran (ISBN: 1400053692). As a blurb on the back cover of the paperback edition notes, "In his chilling new book, New York Times bestselling author Kenneth R. Timmerman uses his exclusive access to previously classified documents, Iranian defectors and officials, and high-level intelligence sources to lay bare the true nature of the Iranian threat--and America's failure to deal with the danger. ...Timmerman reveals that it may already be too late to stop the Iranian regime. For Americans interested in the truth about Iran, Countdown to Crisis may amount to a call for action--or even a case for war."

The short epilog alone, "The Price of Failure"--just over three full pages--which constructs a realistic scenario of what could happen in the near future, is well worth the price of the entire book.

Haha...actually, tho, I was saying the opposite.

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Well, a health economy is built on production (goods or services), and in the rock through the window game, nothing new has been added to the economy, only replaced. If he hadn't had to replace the window, it would.

- R

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