I see, so personal attacks only apply to forum members. Nice way to get around complete civility. Can't have that now can we.

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So obviously it's okay for Chosen1 to attack me based on something he understands very little because I attacked his hero.

Yeah, it was probably, in retrospect, a bad idea to type that, but I did, and I'm not going to edit it out.

She is at least a hypocrite.

Chosen1, look, you posted a thing where Palin said she was proud of her daughter. How can you be proud of someone who did something you believe morally wrong?

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This is a category that thousands of parents fall into within the LGBT community. The parents find homosexuality to be morally incorrect, but are still proud of their childrens' accomplishments and contentment within relationships. Not all pride comes from a morally centered point of view. Especially for Christians for whom pride is often a sin within itself.

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I would also find it hypocritical for someone who believes homosexuality is a sin to be proud of their gay kid's gay relationship.

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There is a nuance you missed. It's not pride of the relationship, it's pride of the child's contentment in companionship... It happens in many families regardless of orientation. The parents don't necessarily approve of the new spouse selected by their child, but they are happy that their child has found someone to spend their life with.

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Like I said, maybe you should think before you post. Once again, you are blaming the parents for something that is out of their control. And your logic is faulty again. Are you stoned now? Maybe you need to clear your mind from external stimuli before making statements like these, so that you don't need to rephrase your comments again. Do you feel the same about all the inner city mothers that have gone through the same scenario as Palin and her daughter? I should hope not. Maybe now you can see why your comments are upsetting.

Stop whining and take responsibility for your comments. What you said was inflamatory and just plain mean. Ask you parents what they think of your rude comment regarding Palin and then report back to us. I'd love to hear what they say about it.

Nope, not my hero. And yes, it was a bad idea to post the comment that you did. At least you admit it, even though it seems you are not very remorseful.

Once you get off your high horse and have some children of your own...then you will understand.

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I can see that.

But I don't think this is the same thing at all.

You've never been stoned, have you? You're clearly missing the point entirely. You think I'm trying to put down everyone who has had a child out of wedlock? As I said before, I don't give a ****. I THINK SHE IS A HYPOCRITE.

I did; they loved it.

Nope, not particularly, except insofar as I regret opening myself to idiotic attacks like yours.


And then you claim I'm missing the point.

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Zephyr, I think you're the one who is missing the point. A person isn't a hypocrite because of another person's actions. A person is only a hypocrite by their own actions.

If Palin had encouraged her daughter to have an abortion, that would have been hypocritical, but standing by her pregnant daughter is not.

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Very well put, but I don't think that the point will get across. Such is life in the big city.

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Yes, and I'm attacking all sex out of wedlock, too, right?

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