Teen pregnancy is not exclusive to any race, creed, or color. Maybe politicians should stop focusing on "minority" problems, when the problem exists in ALL wolks of life, black and white, rich and poor. Maybe politicians should target ALL communities. Here is an example of what IU am talking about, and this goes for ALL political parties and ALL politicians.

Obama Introduces Bill to Reduce Teen Pregnancies in Minority CommunitiesWASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) today introduced the Communities of Color Teen Pregnancy Prevention Act of 2007, which would help prevent teen pregnancies in minority communities. This legislation would strengthen community-based intervention efforts for teen pregnancy services; establish a comprehensive national database to provide culturally and linguistically sensitive information on teen pregnancy reduction; and support research on teen pregnancy in communities of color. U.S. Representative Hilda Solis sponsored this bill in the House (H.R. 468).
Obama Introduces Bill to Reduce Teen Pregnancies in Minority Communities | U.S. Senator Barack Obama

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I would say that someone who claims to be a pious, evangelical Christian, who is at the same time having children out of wedlock, then that person is a filthy, hypocritical bitch.

And as Palin raised this girl, obviously she either did not raise the girl to be a Christian, or the girl is a hypocritical, filthy bitch. Either way you look at it, Palin loses. Because as the girl's parent, she let this happen.

So, way to totally misrepresent my argument. I'd go so far as to say it was deliberate. I personally have no problem with children out of wedlock because I actually don't particularly believe the institution of marriage is all that great, but that's what I believe. Palin is supposed to be a strict Christian.

And as to the boldfaced text, I like how you brought in a personal attack on my lifestyle. Post reported, and I note that you had to do that. You're probably one who's never tried weed before...maybe you should, before you derisively imply that I post garbage because of it.

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Zephyr, that isn't fair. Once children reach a certain age, parents have little, if any, control over what they do. One cannot blame Pain for what her teenage daughter did. Accepting her daughter and the upcoming baby is the Christian thing to do IMO and is worthy of respect. However, I do not respect the idea of having a person with Dominionist leanings being only one heartbeat away from the presidency. As more people become aware of this, hopefully it will hurt McCain's chances at the presidency even more than his following in GW's Republican footsteps will.

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You are calling Palin a "filthy, hypocritical bitch" just because her daughter is pregnant? You seem to have it mixed up here. Palin being a Christian has NOTHING to do with her daughter being pregnant.

So if you were to apply your own logic to yourself, that would mean that YOUR parents (or guardians) allowed you to surf porn and smoke weed. Am I correct, or does this put more holes into your leaky logic??

Yes, you do view porn online, and I bring this up as an example to make my point:

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Originally Posted by Zephyr I skip downloading. Just stream the video, there are probably dozens of sites like that.

So do your parents allow that or do you do it behind their backs? The same goes with smoking weed. Do they allow it or are you sneaking behind their backs?? Careful how you answer, being that it can show that your logic of "blaming the parents" in this case is totally wrong, especially when you insult them in the way you did.

It's Palin's daughter that is pregnant, not Palin. Are you telling us that a Parent's religion should be adopted by their children, by default?? You blame Palin for letting this happen. Is it safe to blame a teen's parents when their child surfs porn and smokes weed?? I am only using you as an example because you openly admit smoking weed and surfing porn. Who should we blame in your case??

What is your "lifestyle"?? Your comment is considered garbage IMO because you are calling a parent a "filthy, hypocritical bitch", just because her daughter got pregnant. Yes, maybe you should think twice before posting your insensitive comments. I stand by what I said, so complain about it all you want.

Maybe you should choose your words more wisely next time, being that your comment is offensive to ALL mothers that have experienced their teen having a child out of wedlock.

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Palin's daughter being pregnant is nobody's fault, except the teen that got pregnant. To blame anyone else for it in the name of politics is just wrong, especially when using the expletives that were used. I agree, it is NOT fair.

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Again, missing the point.

Ya, my parents are cool with it.

But it doesn't make them hypocritical because they are not against either of those things.

I don't whack off and smoke in their presence, but they know I do both of those things and don't care.

If she is a self-avowed Christian and was picked by McCain to woo the militant evangelical Christian vote, then don't you think it might be a little weird that her daughter was not raised with Christian values/ethics?

Once again, missing the point.

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No, it is YOU that has missed the point. You seem confused as far as who is pregnant and who is Christian:

Regarding Palin and her daughter, maybe someone should explain to you which one is Christian and which one is married. I will try to one more time. Palin is the Christian and her daughter is the one who is pregnant. Sounds like you may be a bit dazed and confused here.

That expains quite a bit. My apologies for being so direct with you.

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You missed the point and misunderstood.

My bad, I meant to type this:

I would say that someone who claims to be a pious, evangelical Christian, who has children who are at the same time having children out of wedlock, then that person is a filthy, hypocritical bitch.

Wow, another personal attack. Not particularly unexpected, though.

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Isn't calling Palin a ****** ********** ***** a personal attack? Aren't there consequences for that? Guess not.

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Yes it is.
If Palin were a member of this forum there'd be consequences, but she's not.

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