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Old 08-26-2008, 11:43 AM
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Racism by any other name is still racism and an ugly reality this country needs to deal with directly.

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The Stormfront White Nationalist Community is a white supremacist Internet forum[a] that has been described as one of the earliest and longest continually published websites of any kind and the Internet's first major hate site.[1][2] Stormfront was founded by former Ku Klux Klan member and white nationalist activist Don Black with the intention of creating a community around the white power movement. It grew in popularity in the 1990s and early 21st century, attracting attention from watchdog organizations opposing anti-Semitism.

The website is structured as a discussion forum, with numerous thematic sub-fora on topics such as philosophy, historical revisionism, and self-defense. Stormfront also hosts extensive links to racialist organizations. Issues such as the unsustainability of multicultural society, the possibility of a race war, and the perceived necessity of defending of the white race have fostered a community identity among members of the site, sustaining its growth and development. Stormfront has received media scrutiny for being removed from Internet search engine indexes, for online activism and for having as a member an electoral candidate of a mainstream political party.

Stormfront began in 1991 as an online bulletin board for white nationalist activist David Duke's campaign for United States Senator of Louisiana.[3] The name "Stormfront" was chosen for its connotations of a political or militant front and an analogy with weather fronts that invokes the idea of a tumultuous storm ending in cleansing.[3] The board began to become popular with the exponential growth of the Internet in 1994 and 1995, according to owner Don Black, a former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and a member of the American Nazi Party in the 1970s.[3][4][5] Black founded the website Stormfront.org in April 1995 with the intention of providing a central meeting place for the white power movement.[6] He owns the site's servers, avoiding dependence on Internet service providers.[7] He first received computer training while imprisoned for his role in an abortive 1981 attempt to invade Dominica.[8][9]

The number of registered users on the site rose from 5,000 in January 2002 to 52,566 in June 2005,[1] and it received more than 1,500 hits each weekday as of 2005.[7] By June 2008, the site was attracting more than 40,000 unique users each day.[6] Operating the site from its West Palm Beach, Florida headquarters is Black's full time job, and he is assisted by his son and 40 moderators.[6][10] The popularity of the site attracted attention not only from racialists, but also from watchdog groups such as the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Anti-Defamation League, whose efforts against the site have been hitherto ineffective.[11] With the advent of broadband technology for consumers, the site plans to compete with major television networks in offering video programming.[3]

In a 1998 interview for the alternative weekly newspaper Miami New Times, Black is quoted as saying "We want to take America back. We know a multicultural Yugoslav nation can't hold up for too long. Whites won't have any choice but to take military action. It's our children whose interests we have to defend."[5] In 2006, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported a discussion on Stormfront in which white nationalists were encouraged to join the U.S. Military in order to learn the skills necessary for winning a race war.[14][15] The 2008 United States presidential candidacy of African-American Barack Obama was a cause of significant concern for some Stormfront members.[6]
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White Nationalism is not racism, it is culturism. It is the belief that some cultures are superior to others, not races. While there are some racists within the WN movements, the movement itself is not racist.
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Enough of its members are, if you visit stormfront.org is is filled with racists, holocaust deniers, believers that jews are trying to control the world in a vast conspiracy. (in fact according to many there all jews in the world know about the conspiracy, and if they deny it they are lying)





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Any forum with 113,000+ members is going to have extremists and racists, and they always talk far louder than the average joe there.
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Look at michael here trying to stir the empty pot. Someone here said that White nationalism feels that their culture is superior to all, and for that they are absolutely correct. Who among us (besides a liberal) would deny that fact? While Stormfront has its share of racists and supremacists, so does the liberal movement in our country, i.e Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Nice try for a shot at racist debate Michael, but as you can see most of the respondents here can see right through you.
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Look at michael here trying to stir the empty pot. Someone here said that White nationalism feels that their culture is superior to all, and for that they are absolutely correct. Who among us would deny that fact? While Stormfront has its share of racists and supremacists, so does the liberal movement in our country, i.e Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Nice try for a shot at racist debate Michael, but as you can see most of the respondents here can see right through you.
What fact? That WN feels that their culture is superior to all?
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Skin color is not culture, and defining it as such is racism. Period.

There is no such thing "WHITE CULTURE"!!

culture is much more a regional thing then one of race. Midwest Americans and northern Europeans have less in common then Black people and white people of the same neighborhood.


Calling this a culture debate is the defense of pseudo sociologist and racist.
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Skin color is not culture, and defining it as such is racism. Period.

There is no such thing "WHITE CULTURE"!!

culture is much more a regional thing then one of race. Midwest Americans and northern Europeans have less in common then Black people and white people of the same neighborhood.


Calling this a culture debate is the defense of pseudo sociologist and racist.
Most WN don't have a problem with black people in the same neighborhood. The biggest problem that they have is the spreading for the mexican culture into the US, or the Muslim culture into parts of Europe. You're right that there is no "white" culture, however, in their minds they feel that because of the Holocaust and Hitler, and the Slaves in the 17th - 19th century, that whites are having "pay back" for their anestor's sins (regardless of what country), and any attempt to say "no, we shouldn't have to pay for what others did" they will be labeled racists (like many are).
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