Ahem - culturalism? So Italians, English, slavs, and Norwegians share a culture that a black american would find foreign but a white american would share?

White nationalism is racism - and it is racist to assume skin color is a defining aspect of culture.

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Particularly a forum that is a neo-nazi, white supremacist forum

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If so, why does a half-white man [Obama] pretend he is black?

I don't think he does - but he lives in a culture that still says any 'black blood' makes you black. He grew up with white grandparents, and I suspect he's pretty fluent clturally. However, the media has made a biog deal about him being a black candidate.

I had a thread on another forum asking why Barack was considered black when he is just as much white. I have a multi-racial family, and i think it sucks that kids have to chose which parent they will identify with.

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- Robertson Davies

Racism can happen both ways. It is possible for people to be racist against others than blacks.

That is the main points behind the WN movement, that others are racist against them. There is Jesse Jackson with his remarks against Jews in the 80's and there are the Black Panthers of the late 60's. And even now there have been people (including former members of this forum) that call any white person that supports McCain over Obama as a racist and that the republicans are racists because they are running a white male, and not a woman or a black man. The WN movement believes that there is a double standard against them and only wish to remove the double standard.

Some of their prime examples are, it would be racist to advocate for a white history month, though we have a black history month. It would be sexist to advocate for a men's history month, though we have a women's history month. It would be racist to advocate for an all white college, though there are all black colleges. It would be racist to suggest using affirmative action to hire whites, but fine to use it to hire blacks, or hispanics, or women, or anyone else.

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I agree that there is a double standard and can think of many examples such as Black Chambers of Commerce, the United Negro College Fund, and Black Miss America, etc. I'd like to see the double standard eliminated because it ISN'T fair but I'm not about to join a hate organization over it.

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Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

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Good point.

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Walter Mondale: "George Bush doesn't have the manhood to apologize." George Bush: "Well, on the manhood thing, I'll put mine up against his any time."

I've already met some over at storm. I'm actually there under false info trying to "out" them and many are racists and bigots and all the garbage that they get tagged for, but there are many that are not as well.

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I'm definately not asking anyone to join, only stating that not everyone that is a part of the movement is racist, and that at the core, the movement itself is not racist.

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