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Old 08-20-2008, 12:40 AM
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The recent congression investigation clearly shows that up to two thirds of all corporations DO NOT pay IRS income taxes. Do a search and look up the threads that have already been posted.

Two thirds of FOREIGN companies do not pay taxes.

So who is supporting the US infrastructure they are getting rich off of?
That's because the US Government has deals with other Countries that removes Double Taxation. Like the US and Ireland has one. US and UK has one. So Companies decide to pay taxes at the cheapest place. In Ireland's case.. they pay there.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:01 AM
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And I've been telling everyone here about this. Ireland has a corporate tax rate is 12.5%. It's the fastest growing market in Western Europe.

How Ireland does it.
US talks about it.
Thankfully Ireland also has a 41% income tax level, one of the highest minimum wages in the world, and generous state pensions and unemployment benefits. The state keeps the demand afloat...

Corporate taxes are unproductive, but corporations shouldn't be recognized as legal persons as a reciprocation, nor should the incorporation process be legal for private companies. If you lose money as a shareholder and go into the red, tough luck. Pay up..
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:13 AM
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Thankfully Ireland also has a 41% income tax level, one of the highest minimum wages in the world, and generous state pensions and unemployment benefits. The state keeps the demand afloat...
It'd be nice if you do a little research on Ireland's Income Tax code.


For single filer:
You get a deductible of €3,000 then your first €35,000 (38,000) is taxed at 20%, the rest of the balance is taxed 41%. In dollar terms that means you can deducted $4,500 and then be only taxed 20% up to $53,000 .

For joint filing: You can deducted up €5,000 and your first €70,000 (75,000) is taxed at 20%.

It allows for 1 person to work while the other stay at home and still bring in $115,000.

The Irish income tax is actually fair. As it gives EVERYONE, rich and poor, €35,000 (38,000) to €70,000 (75,000) the same taxable income at 20%, the same write offs, and it taxes everyone making more then the 20% bracket equally, instead of this horrible tax code in the US, which if you even make $115,000 jointly you are paying 25% taxes on it.

So who has the lower income tax again Gene? Ireland is rated 90 on the Tax Misery index. That's lower the people living in Chicago, Ill.. it's also the lowest rating in the EU, go figure. Also they've have been lowering the income tax rate, and plan to lower it again next year.

Their property tax is also amazing. You can own a €1 million home and only pay 7% anything above that is 9%.

Estate Taxes are amazing as well.. non taxable up to €435,000 for sons, daughters, parent (if its the child's estate)..









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Corporate taxes are unproductive, but corporations shouldn't be recognized as legal persons as a reciprocation, nor should the incorporation process be legal for private companies. If you lose money as a shareholder and go into the red, tough luck. Pay up..
They are recognized as "legal" persons. But to be able to be a "legal" person the corporation has to have a board. It's really a legal entity.. just as any form of Government is.
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Corporations pay income tax. They bring in 1million in revenue, they pay taxes on that amount. They raise their prices so they bring in 2 million in revenue, they then pay taxes on 2 million in revenue.

Just as if you made 50k you pay taxes on that 50k. And if you get a raise to 100k you pay taxes on that 100k.

Income taxes (even corporate income taxes) are based on revenue. You bring in more revenue, you pay more tax.


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I remain astounded that anyone would actually believe the myth that corporations pay taxes. More accurately, corporations collect taxes for the IRS, and pass along the hit to consumers (in the form of higher prices) and employees and prospective employees (in the form of fewer new hires, and fewer hours for current employees--perhaps even layoffs, in some cases).
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Corporations pay income tax. They bring in 1million in revenue, they pay taxes on that amount. They raise their prices so they bring in 2 million in revenue, they then pay taxes on 2 million in revenue.

Just as if you made 50k you pay taxes on that 50k. And if you get a raise to 100k you pay taxes on that 100k.

Income taxes (even corporate income taxes) are based on revenue. You bring in more revenue, you pay more tax.
You are incorrect. Corporate income taxes are based off of 'profit'....NOT revenue. There is a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE difference.
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