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Old 08-04-2008, 11:44 AM
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Here is an idea whose time has come.

How to fix American Politics: The Easy Way.

1. Dorm rooms for Congressmen and Senators.
- Instead of living high on the hog, Congressmen and Senators should live in a dorm room type building. Instead of hosting lavish parties for fundraisers, they can sit at their desks and ponder good public policies.

2. Minimum Wage for Congressmen and Senators.
- Since they will be living in public housing, it only makes sense to pay them no more than the minimum wage. And it will be based on how much time the house and senate are actually doing the people's work. No more getting elected and working 4 days a week for 2 hours a day.

3. Fundraising.
- Congressmen and Senators should only be allowed to fundraise in their own districts. They are there to do our business, not the business of a district across the country. If businesses want to contribute to a Congressmen or Senators campaign, fine. Just make sure you have an office in that district.

4. Term Limits.
- Won't need them if #1 and #2 are enacted. Who the hell wants to live in DC, in a dorm room and making minimum wage?

Those are my thoughts on how to fix the broken American Political mess.

How about your ideas?
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1. Dorm rooms for Congressmen and Senators.
- Instead of living high on the hog, Congressmen and Senators should live in a dorm room type building. Instead of hosting lavish parties for fundraisers, they can sit at their desks and ponder good public policies.

2. Minimum Wage for Congressmen and Senators.
- Since they will be living in public housing, it only makes sense to pay them no more than the minimum wage. And it will be based on how much time the house and senate are actually doing the people's work. No more getting elected and working 4 days a week for 2 hours a day.

3. Fundraising.
- Congressmen and Senators should only be allowed to fundraise in their own districts. They are there to do our business, not the business of a district across the country. If businesses want to contribute to a Congressmen or Senators campaign, fine. Just make sure you have an office in that district.


4. Term Limits.
- Won't need them if #1 and #2 are enacted. Who the hell wants to live in DC, in a dorm room and making minimum wage?
1 and 2 seem like good Ideas. History has shown that public officials that get paid well do better jobs. Many mayors are volunteer mayors and they usually suck in comparison. You would get allot more crooked people that way. Creature comforts keep people from want.

3 is brilliant and I agree with every word.

4 you hope that no one worth there weight wants to be in Washington?
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I would disagree with 1 and 2. Compare to a company trying to get a good president, if you only offer them minimum wage and bare essentuials, then your aren't going to get very many good choices and your company will end up suffering.
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I would disagree with 1 and 2. Compare to a company trying to get a good president, if you only offer them minimum wage and bare essentuials, then your aren't going to get very many good choices and your company will end up suffering.
Well we have a lot of millionaires now sitting in congress, does that mean we are on the right track?

The ideas should flow from the Congress and Senators that are the everyday man. Not a bunch of millionaires don't you think?

If this is as good as it gets, we are in a world of hurt.
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Well we have a lot of millionaires now sitting in congress, does that mean we are on the right track?

The ideas should flow from the Congress and Senators that are the everyday man. Not a bunch of millionaires don't you think?

If this is as good as it gets, we are in a world of hurt.
They made their millions outside of congress, so that point is moot. We don't want ideas that are from the everyday people, we want ideas that are good for everyday people.
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I saw the title and my first thought of the use of the word "fix." So I was expecting to see a "How to Become a Lobbyist for Fun and Profit" thread.
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That is the problem here. Are you calling Millionaires everyday people?

Would everyday people say "No" to drilling for our own oil to help get us off a foreign imports?

Would everyday people say "Yes" to allowing anyone born here to be a citizen regardless of where their parents are from?

Would everyday people say "No" to building a wall along the southern border to help stem the tide of illegal immigration?

Would everyday people say "No" to giving the president the line item veto?

Would everyday people say "Yes" to giving their congressman automatic pay raises each year?

There are hundreds of common sense things that are NOT being done by the millionaires sitting in congress right now. I wonder why that is? Maybe getting paid off by the lobbyist?

Common sense hardly flows from Capitol Hill.
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Would everyday people say "No" to drilling for our own oil to help get us off a foreign imports?
Not everyone but certainly many. This is also a fallacious statement. We are drilling all over virtually every state and the Gulf of Mexico. The citizens in FL and CA oppose drilling off their shore. I guess they do not wish to have tarballs on their beaches like we have here. I doubt that opposition would be so high if the oild companies would agree to drill 'over the horizon' but that isn't what they want.

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Would everyday people say "Yes" to allowing anyone born here to be a citizen regardless of where their parents are from?
???....If you are referring to 'anchor babies' you might wish to look at the source (clue...it is called the XIVth amendment).

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Would everyday people say "No" to building a wall along the southern border to help stem the tide of illegal immigration
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I live in Texas...we oppose a wall on our river. We want the river manned and perhaps mined ....but no wall. A wall keeps people in as well as out.

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Would everyday people say "No" to giving the president the line item veto?
This REQURES a constitutional amendment. Please read some history before posting talking points from the GOP play book.

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Would everyday people say "Yes" to giving their congressman automatic pay raises each year?
They do not receive 'automatic' pay raises EACH year. Please reade the XXVIIth amendment.

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There are hundreds of common sense things that are NOT being done by the millionaires sitting in congress right now. I wonder why that is? Maybe getting paid off by the lobbyist?
Many things you have mentioned are simply inaccurate or in cases unconstitutional.

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On this we agree....however little indicates that 'common sense' flows from the electorate either.
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Bluemax is just here to flog his forum of which he is the admin. With less than 100 posts. So, there you go.
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Bluemax is making posts here so it is perfectly acceptable for him to have a link to his forum here. Others do the same.
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