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Old 07-28-2008, 11:27 AM
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You lost a few when you used "nutjobs", dewd.
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You lost a few when you used "nutjobs", dewd.

*** Better to have lost a few 'nutjobs' along the way then have to listen to the losers whine about the war.
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It doesn't matter what the difference between rich and poor is, so long as everyone has enough to get by. Even if the the riches 1% made 95% of the nation's income, if the other 99% still made more than enough to comfortably get by, than there would be no revolution.
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It doesn't matter what the difference between rich and poor is, so long as everyone has enough to get by. Even if the the riches 1% made 95% of the nation's income, if the other 99% still made more than enough to comfortably get by, than there would be no revolution.

And that's the problem. Some of the "other 99%" are not getting by, even after cutting all the corners they can cut out of their budgets.
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And that's the problem. Some of the "other 99%" are not getting by, even after cutting all the corners they can cut out of their budgets.
So it's not the gap between rich and poor, it the bottom line and how many fail to meet it.
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And that's the problem. Some of the "other 99%" are not getting by, even after cutting all the corners they can cut out of their budgets.
Most people who are not getting by are not doing so because of the choices they have made in life. They have nobody else to blame.
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So it's not the gap between rich and poor, it the bottom line and how many fail to meet it.
I think that's a pretty good description of the way things are. Good point, OE.
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Prove the allegations about the environmentalists or it didn't happen.
It is called ethanol subsidies. That said, ethanol was always the wrong choice. Biodiesel made from hemp is more productive. Agri-business acquired the subsidies through the assistance of the environmental lobby. This is a well known historical fact.

However, I am unsure if it was the 80's or the 70's when this began. I thought this started under Carter during the gas crunch when we were trying to find alternative sources of fuel.

We are doing it again except this time it is causing food shortages around the globe. Crop subsidies only help the wealthy and corporate agri-businesses (corporate welfare). They do nothing for farmers.
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Time for the revolution? Nope. Too many people are doing quite well.....or at least not enouigh people aren't, for any sort of actual rebellion to happen.

America has a representative democracy. Revolutions happen where people don't have ANY outlet, or any input at all.

Besides, income inequality is a core American value. We've always had the right to be rich, and ideas about re-distribution have historically had zero traction.
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