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Brit Hume Talks About the Success and Uniqueness of Fox News
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July 21, 2008 - 13:42 ET

When the Bush administration reported that 15 of 18 political benchmarks set for Iraq had been met, which is nearly twice as many that were met last year, only Fox News reported on the story. And during his July 2 report, Brit Hume predicted that the story wouldn’t gain much traction elsewhere:


I suspect that this broadcast tonight -- and maybe some others on this channel -- are the only ones who are going to make a headline out of this. This is not going to be a big story elsewhere.


As Hume predicted, CBS’s “Evening News,” NBC’s “Nightly News” and ABC's “World News Tonight” did not mention the story in their broadcasts that night.

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Responding to claims by other journalists that Fox News does its reporting with a slanted viewpoint, Hume had interesting insight as to the ability of journalists to be truly objective:

None of us is objective. You can’t be objective. But what you can try to be is fair.

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You’re a sentient, thinking, human being. You’re going to have views in reaction to things. But I’ll say this about it. I believe that fairness begins with an awareness that no, you’re not objective. And it is your professional duty and responsibility to be aware of that. And to carry that with you into the work that you do so that you can be fair.

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You can think if you go to a hearing and you think that the politician whose running the hearing is obstreperous personality, whether it’s Phil Graham or Barney Frank, that you think, I got to be careful here.

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We as journalists are or should be professionally trained to do that as well. To go out and assess a story based on its news value and to order it and prioritize what we see in such a way as to reflect news values and report it that way.
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Not only did Hume correctly predict how the liberal main stream media would ignore the political gains in Iraq, he also does something that no other news anchor would dare do... Tell the truth about personal bias!

I have noticed that people in the news media who have a conservative bias (which are few) don't have an issue admitting it, while those in the media who have a liberal bias (the overwhelming majority) refuse to be honest about it. Why is that?
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So when is FOX going to "try to be . . . fair?"
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So when is FOX going to "try to be . . . fair?"
They are.

If you believe they aren't, then please post a news story that ABC, NBC and CBS aired, that FOX News ignored.

FOX News has been praised recently by members of the Hillary Clinton campaign, because they were the only MSM news network that gave them fair and equal coverage in their battle with Obama.

Now Birdzeye, do you have any comment on what I posted?
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I think any pretense of our media being "fair" and unbiased was taken out back and executed long ago.

Of course the media is biased!!! They are complete whores for ratings and tailor stories, choose to report and not report, accordingly. The media watch polls closer than anyone. The instant the people got sick of, and started questioning the Iraq War, they quit cheerleading it and all pretended to be all concerned.... The media are the ultimate panderers.

The Village Voice isn't written for conservatives, and Fox News isn't intended for liberals. People LIKE self-confirmation, and dislike hearing news that goes against theie own biases, and I can't imagine there are a whole lot people out there who weigh and balance everything, or get their news from a variety of sources.

I'm not aware of anything that mandates that the media be neutral. Why is this always such a surprise to people when some outlet airs some story you don't agree with? Nobody was accusing the MSM of liberality when all of them salaciously jumped on every sordid detail of the Lewinsky affair. Where was the righteous indignation, then?

So, come on. Everyone knows the media isn't neutral. That's why Fox News was created to begin with. No victim card to play, here, Grim.
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The liberal bias in the main stream media is obvious.

Networks like NBC, CBS and ABC have done several stories on how those benchmarks hadn't been met before, and now that 10 of the 18 have been met, complete silence.

Not meeting benchmarks = Story
Meeting benchmarks = Non story

Losing the war = Story
Winning the war = Non story

Civil war in Iraq = Story
No civil war in Iraq = Non story

Obama goes to Iraq = Big news
McCain goes to Iraq = Yawn

I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point.
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They are.

If you believe they aren't, then please post a news story that ABC, NBC and CBS aired, that FOX News ignored.

FOX News has been praised recently by members of the Hillary Clinton campaign, because they were the only MSM news network that gave them fair and equal coverage in their battle with Obama.

Now Birdzeye, do you have any comment on what I posted?
Fox is "fair?"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You gotta be kidding!!!!

Since you're the one trying to make a claim here (of Fox's alleged fairness), perhaps you could cite a few examples of news stories that they put out that were very unfavorable to conservatives and/or GOPers.
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Grim, I think you severely overestimate the Vast Liberal Conspiracy. At least its impact.

If what you assert really is true, how can we explain the rather rightward shift of the national character overthe last 20-25 years? This election will again be a fairly tight one, and it's not all that certain Obama will win at all. Even so, Congress maintains such a balance for status quo (you can't count on Democrats to vote Democrat at all), that it's unlikely there will be any sort of massive leftward shift.

If you think the MSM is some liberal propaganda machine, it's a pretty pathetic one, and not worthy of losing sleep over.
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Oh, and all media plays to their audience. If Fox all of a sudden began being completely neutral, they'd lose viewers by the millions. Neither Limbaugh, Coulter or O'Rielly even pretend neutrality, they'd lose credibility from their audiences in a heartbeat.

Not to mention spnsors......

Most news has become editorial and opinion, these days. Only AP/UPI/Reuters wire news reports appear to have any semblance of apoliticality.
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Not only did Hume correctly predict how the liberal main stream media would ignore the political gains in Iraq, he also does something that no other news anchor would dare do... Tell the truth about personal bias!

I have noticed that people in the news media who have a conservative bias (which are few) don't have an issue admitting it, while those in the media who have a liberal bias (the overwhelming majority) refuse to be honest about it. Why is that?

because the liberal media is preoccupied with holding the conservative (and more biased) media accountable, as they are prone to spin and lies in order to preserve the status quo at all costs.
what gains? the al-maliki government is no closer, today, to a working government, representative of all factions, than the day when it took power.
al-maliki said in der spiegel, he agreed with the timetable obama suggested. what did the bush white house do, but proclaim him as misinterpreted
more propaganda, don't you think. in case you had not noticed, it don't play like it used to. bush has no political capital in da vault.
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The success of FAUX News is equatable to pornography on the internet. There is always an audience for Perversion and Titelation...

In Faux's case, they have an audience composed of those people stupid enough to have voted for Bush and dumb enough to think he's doing a good job...
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