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Affrayer · #21 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:31 PM

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It was simply proof that the marketplace was a safe place for a stroll - as long as it's cleared and you're surrounded by heavily armed troops.

The thing that is perturbing is that the right wingers don't see that as special treatment...

Jojo · #22 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chan

No, as a candidate, McCain did not have the right to embassy services. As part of a CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION he would.

Wrong! Try again?!

Obama's Trip Schedule Detailed
Tuesday, Jul. 22, 2008 By KAREN TUMULTY / AMMAN Article

Presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama left Iraq and touched down in Amman today, emerging from an Osprey helicopter carrying a helmet and body armor, and prepared to begin the second phase of his international trip. He and his traveling companions, Senators Chuck Hagel and Jack Reed, were expected to offer an assessment of their trip to Iraq and Afghanistan at a news converence at the historic Citadel overlooking this city. It will be followed by a one-on-one session between Obama and Jordan's King Abdullah II, who interrupted a U.S. visit to fly back through the night for his meeting with Obama.

Obama's trip to Iraq and Afghanistan was official government business, as part of a congressional delegation;

Obama's Trip Schedule Detailed - TIME

Affrayer · #23 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:36 PM

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Yes - the surge has worked. Let's declare victory and get our butts outta there!

Not what McCain't sees happening. He's ready to stay there 100 years. The war goes on and as long as it has political value for the right wing, it will keep going on.

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And yeah - the point of this is the federal govt should be neutral - not allowing one candidate what the other is denied.

I hate to mince words but the point of this thread is that the federal government isn't neutral. That is a noble and ethical state which are two words that aren't in Bush's working vocabulary.

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On the McCain security issue - I see two possible causes. One is that he deliberately revealed the info knowing the risks - the other is that he is too senile to realize the risk. Either one does not make me want to vote for him.

Well it goes deeper. If he knew then he's a gutless traitor and if he didn't know then all those claims about his superior ability to handle the war and terrorism are flat out lies.

Affrayer · #24 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:39 PM

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Wrong! Try again?!

Good post. Although I doubt his trying again will change the outcome by much.

Jojo · #25 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Affrayer

Good post. Although I doubt his trying again will change the outcome by much.

Nah - once the argument is countered it is time to leave the thread - lest dmage be done to preconcieved notions.

Drakej · #26 (**permalink**) 07-22-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Affrayer

Sure, Bush bribed the Sunni to protend they were our allies, big deal...

But the war is still going on. If we lose the Sunni as our allies not only will violence come back but since we've now supplied and trained them, it will come back with a vengeance.

Hahahahahahahaha....I do not play lawn darts with a blind man and I do not debate with a right wing sycophant.

Ohh shucks Affrayer, you is so much smatter than po little ol' me!!!

And what makes you think that I am a right wing sycophant? So you believe that the Iraqi people are just a bunch of selfish greedy people that only do things that fit their mood right now and then just switch sides? Do you want them to switch sides and rain terror and death upon our troops and Iraqi civilians? You probably would wouldn't you, just to show the world how the big bad Republicans are alllllll at fault.

Affrayer · #27 (**permalink**) 07-23-2008, 06:04 AM

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Ohh shucks Affrayer, you is so much smatter than po little ol' me!!!

Hey, don't blame your inferiority complex on me....

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And what makes you think that I am a right wing sycophant?

Don't tell me, you're one of those right wingers hiding out as a libertarian.

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So you believe that the Iraqi people are just a bunch of selfish greedy people that only do things that fit their mood right now and then just switch sides?

Nope, I believe that Iraqi people are concerned with their self interests and that because the Bush administration doesn't understand this they tend to fumble the ball a lot...

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Do you want them to switch sides and rain terror and death upon our troops and Iraqi civilians?

I don't want them to do anything...this isn't about what I want...this is about what they will do when Bush screws up yet again...

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You probably would wouldn't you, just to show the world how the big bad Republicans are alllllll at fault.

The republicans have run this engagement from start to finish...so if there is any fault, it belongs to them.

Liberal-hater · #28 (**permalink**) 07-23-2008, 06:23 AM

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The republicans have run this engagement from start to finish...so if there is any fault, it belongs to them.[/QUOTE]

*** What fault? We're winning the war. The surge is working. Bush will go down in history as one of the most effective war time CIC's in history. He and Ronald Reagan will make it six figures sculptured up on Mt Rushmore. You will go down in history as just another wimpy whining leftist defeatist.

diuretic · #29 (**permalink**) 07-23-2008, 06:48 AM

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*** What fault? We're winning the war. The surge is working. Bush will go down in history as one of the most effective war time CIC's in history. He and Ronald Reagan will make it six figures sculptured up on Mt Rushmore. You will go down in history as just another wimpy whining leftist defeatist.

Now THAT is bloody funny!

Liberal-hater · #30 (**permalink**) 07-23-2008, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by diuretic

Now THAT is bloody funny!

*** You must be referring to the last sentence. For that I will thank you most graciously.

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