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Old 07-22-2008, 07:45 AM
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Wow- an original thought.
Not mine, it belongs to the 100,000's of Vietnam Veterans who hate McCain'ts guts for being a traitor.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:34 AM
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Oh, you mean the security McCain't compromised?



Hahahahahahahaha....are you trying to claim that Iraq isn't still a violent place? Well if that's the case why not bring the troops home...
Violence is at its lowest point since the war has started. That does not mean that it has stopped but it is damn low for a war. But you have no interest in actually debating the topic at hand do you....
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Old 07-22-2008, 10:56 AM
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That's because McCain wasn't trying to get special treatment, while Obama thinks he is fricking royalty.
McCain went as part of an official congressional delegation, which is entirely different from what is going on here. Had Obama gone to Iraq and elsewhere as part of an official congressional delegation, there would be no basis for this thread and Rice's policy directive would not have implications in the present presidential race.

The policy itself is entirely appropriate: the federal government (including America's embassies) don't work for the political candidates.
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As a citizen abroad, you do not have the right to have the embassy hold events for you or arrange meetings for you. So, maybe you should know what the hell you're talking about before making idiotic posts!

However, to throw you just a little bone, it is suspicious that Rice would issue this instruction at this particular time and not, say, at the beginning of the campaign.

As a candidate abroad, McCain had the right to all those embassy services - but I agree that I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Hahahahahahaha....remember when McCain went to Iraq and had an entire market place cleared and was surrounded by a battalion of troops and a squadron of helicopters? Now if that's not special treatment I don't know what is...

It was simply proof that the marketplace was a safe place for a stroll - as long as it's cleared and you're surrounded by heavily armed troops.
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It's called security. If Obama had gone to Iraq during that violent time period he would have gotten the exact same treatment. Do you deny that?
Not if the embassy is expected to arrange it - at least not now.
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Hahahahahahahaha....are you trying to claim that Iraq isn't still a violent place? Well if that's the case why not bring the troops home...
Yes - the surge has worked. Let's declare victory and get our butts outta there!

And yeah - the point of this is the federal govt should be neutral - not allowing one candidate what the other is denied.

On the McCain security issue - I see two possible causes. One is that he deliberately revealed the info knowing the risks - the other is that he is too senile to realize the risk. Either one does not make me want to vote for him.
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As a candidate abroad, McCain had the right to all those embassy services - but I agree that I sure as hell wouldn't.
No, as a candidate, McCain did not have the right to embassy services. As part of a CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION he would.
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Violence is at its lowest point since the war has started.
Sure, Bush bribed the Sunni to protend they were our allies, big deal...

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That does not mean that it has stopped but it is damn low for a war.
But the war is still going on. If we lose the Sunni as our allies not only will violence come back but since we've now supplied and trained them, it will come back with a vengeance.

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But you have no interest in actually debating the topic at hand do you....
Hahahahahahahaha....I do not play lawn darts with a blind man and I do not debate with a right wing sycophant.
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