Originally Posted by Skerlnik

Well, yes, but even those who join out of a purely mercenary motive deserve honor and care, when that duty is done.

Originally Posted by Grim17

Just a few questions:

1. If I started a thread called "May the Liberal liars rot in h*ll for this!", would it immediately be locked or deleted as "baiting"?

2. If I started a thread called "May the Liberal liars rot in h*ll for this!", would I receive an infraction and/or be banned?

3. If I posted an "excerpt" that was in excess of 70 paragraphs, as this thread was started with, would I be told that "Because of copyright laws" I should "only copy a few paragraphs" of an article as stated in the forum rules?

4. If I posted an excerpt from an article, and didn't include "some personal comments" as stated in the rules, would I be banned as I was in the past for this same offense?

5. If I were to say to another member "F*ck off", as the person who started this thread did, would my post be deleted just like Michael did when I called him a "liar" for lying?

6. If I were to say to another member "F*ck off", as the person who started this thread did, would I receive an infraction and/or banned because the rules clearly state that it is not permitted?

7. Does the fact that moderators of this forum have not only overlooked these infractions, but have participated in this thread, show that the rules are selectively applied based on a persons political beliefs?

I believe the answer to all 7 question is "YES", but I only base it on the actions of the moderators, so I could be wrong.

Sorry for going "off-topic", but if I started a thread asking these questions, it would be ignored or deleted.

Originally Posted by Jojo

What I can take from your response is you believe our govt owes nothing to soldiers who fight in america's wars - and that if republicans are in office then they have no responsibility to get the job done. The fact that the repubs held congress when this war as NOT declared - and made no appropriations plans makes them responsible for this snafu. Now that the dems hold congress, they are responsible for cleaning up this mess.


*** You guessed wrong, the only real need for our government 'is' to support our troops. But like anything else, there are going to be whiners and crybabies that can never be satisfied. Just because there are whiners like you and others, doesn't mean that the VA administration or VA Healthcare is in need of more money or a higher 5 star standing. Like I said before, I have never had a problem with the VA Healthcare system. I get all my medical, optical, and dental for free. I see no reason to complain at this stage. And I was drafted into a war that I would have gladly taken a vacation from had I had the choice to do so. So what I did was I zucked it up and became a man. No one owes me a living; that's what I tell my son. So I don't see this 'mess' you refer to as being anything to get in a dither about.

Unlike you - I do support our troops. And unlie you, I don't make excuses for either political party.

*** Obviously you didn't read my signature. Wasn't there one there about..
"Annoy a liberal....support our troops?" That kinda says it all.

BTW - Reagan made movies during WWII - he was never a soldier.

Originally Posted by Grim17

Just a few questions:

1. If I started a thread called "May the Liberal liars rot in h*ll for this!", would it immediately be locked or deleted as "baiting"?

2. If I started a thread called "May the Liberal liars rot in h*ll for this!", would I receive an infraction and/or be banned?

3. If I posted an "excerpt" that was in excess of 70 paragraphs, as this thread was started with, would I be told that "Because of copyright laws" I should "only copy a few paragraphs" of an article as stated in the forum rules?

4. If I posted an excerpt from an article, and didn't include "some personal comments" as stated in the rules, would I be banned as I was in the past for this same offense?

5. If I were to say to another member "F*ck off", as the person who started this thread did, would my post be deleted just like Michael did when I called him a "liar" for lying?

6. If I were to say to another member "F*ck off", as the person who started this thread did, would I receive an infraction and/or banned because the rules clearly state that it is not permitted?

7. Does the fact that moderators of this forum have not only overlooked these infractions, but have participated in this thread, show that the rules are selectively applied based on a persons political beliefs?

I believe the answer to all 7 question is "YES", but I only base it on the actions of the moderators, so I could be wrong.

Sorry for going "off-topic", but if I started a thread asking these questions, it would be ignored or deleted.

Originally Posted by Skerlnik

Well, yes, but even those who join out of a purely mercenary motive deserve honor and care, when that duty is done.

On the one hand, I agree with you that troops know what they are signing up for, and have no standing to complain when they are used stupidly.

However, I would expect that this nation owes some reciprocity to these soldiers. It speaks volumes about how we view them as mere tools to be employes and then discarded. When you serve your country, it's only right that the country serve you.

I don't get this. The people who relentlessly shout "Support the Troops!" when someone criticize our military's actions in Iraq, and become patriotically indignant at the merest suggestion of impropriety or savagery of our troops, seem to be the very same people who defend our national policy of discarding them and ignoring them after their utility is done.

Why are the people considered "liberals" the ones most upset about things like Walter Reed and stop-lossing?

Originally Posted by Liberal-hater

*** Never a soldier, but yet went on to become our greatest president.

Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant

Due to the flaming nature of the title, but the rather non-aggressive nature of the posting, the title has been changed to something less flamebait~ish.

Originally Posted by Grim17

But you locked my thread down instead of changing it's title...

Classic!

Originally Posted by Chan

Come on, Finny, you know damned well that these kids (born in the mid-late 1980s) aren't responsible for anything. They've been brought up all their lives being told that it's always someone else's fault.

Frankly, I'm tired of all this whining about "post-traumatic stress disorder." While they may not be responsible for whatever "trauma" occurred, they are responsible for how they choose to deal with it. It isn't the traumatic event (in this case, specific incidents during the Iraq War) that caused this guy's problems, it was his own choices on how to deal with the horror of those incidents that caused them.

What was it someone once said? "War is hell." Now, let me add to it: "War is hell - deal with it!"

It's no wonder so many of these guys are coming back messed up in the head: they're a result of what American society has become - a society of whiny crybabies.