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Old 06-25-2008, 12:42 PM
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Whenever you get around to answering Coyote's post, could you please bring me a chocolate milkshake, and a strawberry one for him?

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Straw, please.
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I asked you for one person who disagreed with Bush that wasn't forced out.
Entire Agencies, that is more than one individual. My goodness.

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President Bush receives a one-page, highly classified “President’s Summary” of the US intelligence community’s new National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq (see October 1, 2002). The summary discusses the high-strength aluminum tubes that many administration and Pentagon officials believe are being used to help Iraq construct a nuclear weapon. Both the Energy Department (DOE) and the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR) believe the tubes are “intended for conventional weapons,” contradicting the view of other intelligence agencies, including the CIA and DIA. The public will not be told of Bush’s personal knowledge of the DOE and INR dissents until March 2006. National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and other senior officials will try to explain the administration’s stance on Iraq’s nuclear program by asserting that neither Bush, Vice President Cheney, nor Rice ever saw the dissents. For months, Bush, Cheney, Rice, Secretary of State Colin Powell (see February 5, 2003), and others will cite the tubes as indisputable proof of an Iraqi nuclear program. US inspectors will discover, after the fall of the Iraqi regime, that the nuclear program had been dormant for over ten years, and the aluminum tubes used only for artillery shells.

Inquiry - The Bush administration will refuse to release the summary to Congressional investigators who wish to know the basis for the Bush administration’s assertions about Iraq’s nuclear weapons program. A senior official calls it the “one document which illustrates what the president knew and when he knew it.” It is likely that Bush never read the dissents in the report itself, as administration officials will confirm they do not believe Bush would have read the entire NIE, and it is likely that he never made it to the dissents, in a special text box positioned well away from the main text of the report. However, the one-page summary was written specifically for Bush, was handed to Bush by then-CIA director George Tenet, Bush read the summary in Tenet’s presence, and the two discussed the subject at length. Cheney was given virtually the same information as Bush concerning every aspect of the intelligence community’s findings on Iraq. Nevertheless, Bush and other officials (see July 11, 2003) will claim for months that they were unaware of the dissents.
And what happened to Tenet? How about he was forced to resign....
Wrong, Tenet left on his own free will about 18 months after that report. And about 6 months after that he recieved the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Kind of nice for the president to do if it was the president that forced him out, and it was the Democrats in congress (like Carl Levin) that thought he did a piss poor job and didn't disever squat.


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So you claim but have not proved. So are you saying that those who were wrong had work that wasn't shoddy?
Why do I need to? The cite that you provided says it all, did you not read your own evidence? Let me share, "The report does not name the CIA source or indicate that the person is a former ambassador. Instead it describes the source as “a contact with excellent access who does not have an established reporting record” and notes that the Nigeriens with whom he spoke “knew their remarks could reach the US government and may have intended to influence as well as inform.”" That makes it sloppy and shoddy.

"Mayaki, according to the report, also acknowledged a June 1999 visit (see June 1999) by a businessman who arranged a meeting between Mayaki and an Iraqi delegation to discuss “expanding commercial relations” between Niger and Iraq. The intelligence report says that Mayaki interpreted “expanding commercial relations” to mean that the delegation wanted to discuss purchasing uranium." That's what Mayaki believed it meant.

Wilson also didn't file a report, figuring that others would take care of it (shoddy) and was given the response of "the intelligence community does not believe the trip has contributed any significant information to what is already known about the issue."

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Nope, Bush is the one who signed the Presidential Directive to out Wilson's wife.
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