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View Poll Results: Do you think Barack will consider Hillary to be his VP running mate?
Yes, Obama will consider her offer. 3 27.27%
No, Obama will decline her offer. 8 72.73%
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:43 AM
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My understanding is that Obama doesn't have a real choice in the appointment. The VP is chosen by the commitee. If so, they may nominate her as the VP for the sake of the party. After all the blows traded, it sure would be ironic.
You're so wrong. The Presidential candidate chooses the VP.

First you claim the VP offers him/herself. Now you claim a committee chooses the VP.

What committee is this?
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the only poll choices are consider or decline. What if he considers and then declines.
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You're so wrong. The Presidential candidate chooses the VP.

First you claim the VP offers him/herself. Now you claim a committee chooses the VP.

What committee is this?
You are incorrect. Maybe you should do a bit of research before you start correcting others.

It's actually not a commitee. It's the party's nominating convention that chooses the VP nominee, and they decide after the Presidential nominee is chosen. They decide in the same manner they do with the Presidential nomination. Even though Obama may have some influence over who he wants as VP, the final decision is up to the party's nominating convention. Obama may just be stuck with Hillary, whether he likes it or not. Like I said earlier, wouldn't that be ironic.
Nominating process
The vice presidential candidates of the major national political parties are formally selected by each party's quadrennial nominating convention, following the selection of their presidential candidates. The official process is identical to the one by which the presidential candidates are chosen, with delegates placing the names of candidates into nomination, followed by a ballot in which candidates must receive a majority to secure the party's nomination. In practice, the presidential nominee has considerable influence on the decision, and in 20th century it became customary for that person to select a preferred running mate, who is then nominated and accepted by the convention. In recent years, with the presidential nomination usually being a foregone conclusion as the result of the primary process, the selection of a vice presidential candidate is often announced prior to the actual balloting for the presidential candidate, and sometimes before the beginning of the convention itself. Often, the presidential nominee will name a vice presidential candidate who will bring geographic or ideological balance to the ticket or appeal to a particular constituency. The vice presidential candidate might also be chosen on the basis of traits the presidential candidate is perceived to lack, or on the basis of name recognition. Popular runners-up in the presidential nomination process are commonly considered, to foster party unity.

The last presidential candidate to not name a vice presidential choice, leaving the matter up to the convention, was Democrat Adlai Stevenson in 1956. The convention chose Tennessee Senator Estes Kefauver over Massachusetts Senator (and later president) John F. Kennedy. At the tumultuous 1972 Democratic convention, presidential nominee George McGovern selected Senator Thomas Eagleton as his running mate, but numerous other candidates were either nominated from the floor or received votes during the balloting. Eagleton nevertheless received a majority of the votes and the nomination.
Nominating Process for the VPOTUS

I'm glad I could help educate you in the process of selecting the VPOTUS

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Absolute nonsense....the choice is Obama's alone. AD, stop posting misinformation.
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Absolute nonsense....the choice is Obama's alone. AD, stop posting misinformation.
Instead of commenting on what other members DON'T know, why not try to attempt to post something that you DO know for a change, instead of jumping to the conclusion that what you are reading is misinformation. Once again, the blind loyalty many show towards their candidate gets in the way of actual facts.

I believe that the Constitution also has some info on it. Take a look
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Instead of commenting on what other members DON'T know, why not try to attempt to post something that you DO know for a change, instead of jumping to the conclusion that what you are reading is misinformation. Once again, the blind loyalty many show towards their candidate gets in the way of actual facts.

I believe that the Constitution also has some info on it. Take a look
I don't give a gahoot what you say the Constitution has to say about VP selection. Donna Brazile, Jeffrey Toobin, David Gergen, and Roland Martin, all, have said it is Obama's decision, and his alone. No committee is going to select a VP for him, after all, it is he, who has to work with his selection. Go back to school.
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Oh course, he'll consider it. I hope he then "unconsiders" it.
Governor Richardson or General Clark would be just dandy, IMHO.
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So far on this forum, 87.50% are saying he wouldn't consider it. I think that Obama knows that most of his supporters are dead set against a Obama/Clinton ticket and that it would just kill him in the general election. And that is why he won't do it.
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I'm glad I could help educate you in the process of selecting the VPOTUS
If you were the teacher, they'd have to fire you for teaching false information.

Obama will choose the VP.

That's the truth.

To the mods - this isn't called bickering. So don't suddenly freak out again and call it that. This is called countering false information with the truth.

Every time I see false info on this board, I will counter it with the truth.

I'm sorry that some of you consider that to be bickering, because it's not.

As long as Dreamer here posts misinformation, you'll see me and others come after it with the facts. I don't think it's good for the board to leave the false information unanswered.
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Absolute nonsense....the choice is Obama's alone. AD, stop posting misinformation.
he is not posting misinformation. i am surprised by the number of posters who give the impression of great political knowledge (and no this comment is not directed at you specifically), but who really do not apparently have a grasp of how US politics really operates

if all these posters can do is post 'you are wrong' or 'so and so' says so there isnt much point in continuing the debate.
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