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In Carter's Shadow
Wednesday, May. 28, 2008
By RAMESH PONNURU


The ghost of Jimmy Carter is haunting the 2008 campaign. Well, let me restate that: the ghost of his presidency haunts the 2008 campaign. As for Carter, he certainly has not passed on; he is an active freelance diplomat and campaign consultant. In recent days he has told Hillary Clinton to "give it up" in June and estimated the size of Israel's nuclear stockpile. (Other previous Presidents have kept tactfully silent about its very existence.) Earlier, both John McCain and Barack Obama had felt compelled to denounce Carter's meeting with representatives of Hamas. Carter's almost predictable intrusions into the news have done little to sway events, but they have conjured memories of a past that the current President and his two would-be successors are trying not to repeat.

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Of the two likely nominees this year, Obama is closest to Carter in background and policy leanings. The parallels between his campaign so far and the one Carter ran in 1976 are striking. Like Carter, Obama had little national experience when he started to run. Neither was given much chance of winning the nomination. Instead of running on a detailed platform, Carter told crowds that what Washington needed was "a government as good as its people"—just as Obama promises "change we can believe in." Carter's message sold well after Richard Nixon's disgrace, and press accounts from the time suggest that people found the born-again Carter to be charismatic. That parallel is a promising one for Obama.

But his Carterish echoes come with two potential dangers. The first is that running as the embodiment of hope can lend itself to a certain self-righteousness—what critics have already started to call 鬩tism. The second danger is that the public will come to see Obama as naive about America's enemies abroad, as it eventually concluded Carter was. Ever since Obama said he was willing to negotiate with those enemies directly and "without precondition," Republicans have been trying to tag him as the son of the Georgia governor.

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Hopefully, the American people won't make the same mistake twice and elect Jimmy Junior. With Obama's lack of experience, that is just what he's shaping up to be.

Personally, I think Obama has a future in politics, but he has some growing to do, along with some skeletons in his closet to distance himself from. Both of these things require time to fix.
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Americans have a history of making mistakes more than once.
We are a nation of slow learners.
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Hopefully, the American people won't make the same mistake twice and elect Jimmy Junior. With Obama's lack of experience, that is just what he's shaping up to be.

Personally, I think Obama has a future in politics, but he has some growing to do, along with some skeletons in his closet to distance himself from. Both of these things require time to fix.
You'd do well to keep the name of St. Carter out of your "mouth"....he has distinguished himself as "the" elder statesman", and humanitarian nonpareil.
Obama is much more often "likened to" JFK, than to Carter. Get it straight.
You're trying desperately to smear two birds with one paintbrush...but that brush "don't wash". Nice try though....not.
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Hopefully, the American people won't make the same mistake twice and elect Jimmy Junior. With Obama's lack of experience, that is just what he's shaping up to be.

Personally, I think Obama has a future in politics, but he has some growing to do, along with some skeletons in his closet to distance himself from. Both of these things require time to fix.
Hopefully, the American people won't make the same mistake twice and elect John McCain (GWB Junior).
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Carter was before his time. I don't think thtat that time is now, but I also don't think that Obama is another Carter by a long stretch.
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Hopefully, the American people won't make the same mistake twice and elect John McCain (GWB Junior).
Or any Democrat or Republican. Unfortunately, the American sheeple have been convinced by the media idiots and by both the Democrats and Republicans that they have no other choice.
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What a surprise!!!

Another attempt to turn a thread that has nothing to do with McCain, into another republican bashing thread... I'm shocked!
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Carter was before his time. I don't think thtat that time is now, but I also don't think that Obama is another Carter by a long stretch.
You're right... America wasn't ready for a terrorist appeasing, spine-less president... And hopefully, I won't live to see the day that it is ready for such.
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What a surprise!!!

Another attempt to turn a thread that has nothing to do with McCain, into another republican bashing thread... I'm shocked!
Oh, so pointing out the silliness of a Democrat bashing thread is now "turning" the thread? Sheesh.
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