I would say the Rev. Wright debacle and this current event. That's Politics.

I don't think a man of the cloth should be spouting this or that about a Politician. This goes for those on the right as well.

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Pioneers are walking all around singing songs about Lenin and they should be shot for it.

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"If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
H. L. Mencken

come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

More of the electron microscope examination of Obama while McCain gets a pass.

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National Debt =

This thread isn't about McCain but as I said earlier it's kinda conveinent that only the controversial sermons at this church get taped and are put on television.

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"I find no black men appealing, they look like giant monkeys." -LilithIshtar (some member of another forum I used to be part of)

No pass from me.

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Pioneers are walking all around singing songs about Lenin and they should be shot for it.

Handlebars

"If you are looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror"- V

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.
H. L. Mencken

come on you know you wanna play football..

Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

This thread isn't about McCain. Nor does McCain get a pass in this forum. And if he does get a pass from some, are not members allowed to voice their opinion as long as that opinion is on topic??

Of course....you should make another thread on the same subject.

Oh, you already have...

AD: so criticizing American policy that murders foreigners is indulging in politics, but ranting about abortion isn't? What about ranting about gays?

I call BS. Indulging in politics is specifically endorsing a candidate. If a Pastor wants to get up and say God thinks that American policy sucks huge hairy balls! that's his his prerogative.

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-Joseph Welch

Churches should be able to "say" anything they want if they pay taxes. Which they don't.

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You meet the same folks on the way up as you do on the way down.

And we should care about this why?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."