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Old 05-29-2008, 05:24 PM
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You keep saying that but you haven't shown us which democrats said it yet.

Is that because it's not true and you can't find any?

Kucinich is the only one I know of.....You keep saying it as if there were LOTS of them.

Please list them for us.
I know of no promises. No one in their right mind would make such a promise when the republicans controlled the congress. Geeze - grab some reality.
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Hear, hear....notice whom they put up as talking heads to counter McClellan...
More interesting is the White House and their gang of thugs have not offered a single fact to contradict what McClellan has said.
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The democrats promised to impeach Bush and stop the war... What a joke.

I do agree though, that there should be congressional hearings. What better way to demonstrate how big a mistake it was to elect the democrats into power on capitol hill.
I am not sure I follow you here. If hearings were held that impeached Bush and stopped the war, wouldn't that be exactly what the majority of Americans have asked to happen? Not sure on the impeach question, but I have seen polls on stopping the war that favor stopping it.

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They've already achieved the lowest approval ratings of any congress in history, but they can go much lower... Go Pelosi go!
I thought someone showed here yesterday, that Congressional ratings are low because of republicans who get included in "some" polls. When the wheat is seperated from the chaff however, Democrats shine. Here is one such poll.

By a 2 to 1 margin, those who see little accomplishment in Congress's first nine months blame the inaction on Bush and the GOP more than they do the majority Democrats. Fifty-one percent place primary fault with the president and congressional Republicans, and 25 percent on the Democrats. Among independents, 43 percent blame Republicans, 23 percent Democrats and nearly three in 10 blame both sides equally.

Most in Poll Want War Funding Cut
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The democrats promised to impeach Bush and stop the war... What a joke.

I do agree though, that there should be congressional hearings. What better way to demonstrate how big a mistake it was to elect the democrats into power on capitol hill.

They've already achieved the lowest approval ratings of any congress in history, but they can go much lower... Go Pelosi go!
no they didn't... got a link?

right... electing republicans into power is what got us into the mess we are in now... no thanks... until there is a viable third party, I will vote democratic in order to oust as many of those obstructionist rubber stamping republicans as possible.

Just because the democrats have a slim majority, doesn't mean they control congress... in the senate for instance, they hold 51 seats... it takes 60 votes to get a bill to the floor and 67 to overirde bush's vetoes... is 51 larger than 60 in your world, grim? How about 67? Is 51 larger than 67? Cuz it sure as hell isn't larger in my world... no... the blame for an ineffectual congress falls squarely on the shoulders of the obstructionist republicans... when we vote them out of office in November, and nothing gets done, THEN you can complain...

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It could be worse - Congress could still be under the control of the GOP yes men for Bush. *shudder*
right... the ones that got us INTO the mess we are in today...
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You keep saying that but you haven't shown us which democrats said it yet.

Is that because it's not true and you can't find any?

Kucinich is the only one I know of.....You keep saying it as if there were LOTS of them.

Please list them for us.
Don't hold your breath waiting for his answer, Viola... I'd hate to see you turn blue...

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Hear, hear....notice whom they put up as talking heads to counter McClellan.....even Rove tried to put his two cents in (and isn't he being subpoened, presently? Any other self-respecting klutz would be taking a low profile...but not ol' fathead.)
Dana "Bimbo" Perino, Bartlett....uh, anyone see Ari Fleischer?
Funny how all the old and new press secretaries are claiming Scott was out of the loop... does that mean that they were/are out of the loop, as well?
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More interesting is the White House and their gang of thugs have not offered a single fact to contradict what McClellan has said.
Do we know what he said yet? Unfortunately for Republicans, they have made an issue of the subject matter in the book, inspired people to buy it, and have helped advertise free for McCellan. I doubt the republicans would want an investigation of this matter leading into the election. I thinks they done shot themselves in the foot and should have stayed mum.
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I know of no promises. No one in their right mind would make such a promise when the republicans controlled the congress. Geeze - grab some reality.
Vi has a good grip on reality, Shintao, it's Grim we aren't so sure about... cuz he's the one who made the statement about Democrats promising to impeach bush et al...
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Do we know what he said yet? Unfortunately for Republicans, they have made an issue of the subject matter in the book, inspired people to buy it, and have helped advertise free for McCellan. I doubt the republicans would want an investigation of this matter leading into the election. I thinks they done shot themselves in the foot and should have stayed mum.
I sure hope so, Shintao... let's have a beer while we wait and see...
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