The "working" class was moving from agrarian to industrial. Though working conditions may have been harsh, I can not equate those conditions to the harshness of agrarian society. Working the land as a surf, peasant, share cropper or tenant farmer was no better than those working in industry.

Education is beneficial to everyone. That is why you need to get the best you possibly can afford.

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What if your an orphan and you cant afford school becuase you have nothing.

What if your Father or Mother are drug addicts and you want to get an education but you cant.

What if your parents work in the service industry or some other low wage job and you cant afford to go to school.

Should school be something only the wealthy get becuase they can afford it.
I don't think so not unless you want to go back to having kings and dukes and all that other non sense.

It sucks, but when you are an orphan, you usually become a matter of the State, then usually a matter of Foster home which State money is used.


That sucks too, but the failures of others should not become my burden.

Well, that sucks too.

With your 3 examples.. The child has to do well in school. Its not impossible for one to further their education. There are Community Colleges all over the US. Getting a 2 year degree and moving to a job which pays more then a job that requires a High School diploma is moving up.

Community Colleges are not that expensive. In fact, you can do it over time and get a degree. States and the Federal Government give loans as well. So these are false arguments.

But as I said its up to the Child to do well in school. That requires one to want to improve themselves. If they don't, That is their fault. I'll gladly allow the Government take a few dollars from me to give a loan to a Student who has earned it. I will not give money to the Government so a Student who has a 2.9 or less GPA and barely got 900 on his or her SAT can go to College and just screw around.

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Tell me finny what do we do with all the poor and average people in this country.

You don't mind helping people that are above average but if they aren't what then.

Do you just keep anyone that can't match your standards on the streets or working some crap job barely getting by becuase you did better on some tests or had more money.

Ah the "less fortunate"
Its all about the lottery and has nothing to do with choices.

Choice, What does choice have to do with it.

Do children get to pick their parents I don't think so.

You want to say that all those that have no money have none becuase of choice.

I am sure there are those that deserve where they are in the world and what they have
but the vast majority are doing their best with what they have.

Why should some snot nosed brat with a low IQ get to go to say Yale when thousands of hard working kids can't even get a decent high school education. While I don't expect the world to ever be fair I think we can make it a little more fair by making a good education something that all Americans can get.

Privatization of things like Education and Social Security will only benefit the wealthy who will end up owning all the private companies you want to create.

No but it certainly is not a grand lottery. For most adults it is mostly choice.
Unless you believe in fate, which I do not.

I also liked how you said privatization of things only benefits the wealthy. That just makes so much sense considering me, a broke *** college student supports it. Maybe because it allows me choice so that I can make good responsible choices and be wealthy, oh yes it is perfectly possible with good choices.

You need to get out in the world and see a few things before you make such
grandiose statements about the lives of the people of this world.

No you a broke *** college student have no clue what your talking about.

No offense its not your fault that you haven't seen reality yet many people go there whole lives thinking everyone that is less fortunate does it by choice.

But let me ask you

Who the hell would choose poor if they really had a choice?

Sure I don't. Nice assumption. You know what they say about assumptions don't ya?

It is not as simple as saying hey I'm going to be poor. It is a culmination of choices. Saying hey I am going to have sex in high school, then get knocked up. Then saying hey I am going to keep it and stop going to school. Or saying hey I am going to piss around during high school and barely pass then wonder why I barely make any money. Or maybe you are going to waste your money and junk and not get heath insurance, savings, ect and then get screwed when something happens. Or maybe you get addicted to some substance and waste everything on that. Those are what you can call bad choices that may very well lead to being poor or homeless or whatever else you want to call "less fortunate". There are many possible scenarios.

So only the people that elude all the many challenges of life and make only the right decisions are allowed to get an education or a job that pays more then 10 dollars an hour.

Only someone that hasn't lived long enough to have made a seriously bad choice can be so callus about other peoples mistakes. Don't worry I'm more then sure that you will have to face something in your life that will finally show you that its not all about how cunning or smart you are.