wow, reading up the thread a little shows this one degenerated into the usual insult filled rants, fast...

So I think I'll skip reading any more than the TO and the three above mine...

why bother...

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My Pep Talk For Lefties and Lurkers

Elite means better than normal people. Are you a capitalist? Then you, too, are an elitist.

No, calling you stupid would be a rules violation. Calling your posts stupid is not.

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When I feed the poor, they call me a saint.
When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist.

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It's really ridiculous. I have him on ignore...because if you really want to know, behind the scenes, he has enlisted a certain mod, who will go "unnamed", in a campaign against me....claiming that I'm harassing him in PM's, which resulted in a 6 point infraction against me, which, IMHO was unfounded and unfairly administered. Yet, he rails against other mods who seek to keep him in bounds.
Totally out of control, if you ask me, yet so willing to play the "whining victim", when permitted.

Since you have brought me up, I thought I'd respond. If you feel that I can enlist a PF mod to do anything here, you must be kidding! Besides that, isn't discussing specific details of a moderator's PM's in a public forum supposed to be against the forum rules?? Maybe the reason that it is "behind the scenes" is due to the fact that the mods want to keep it "behind the scenes". Thanks for sharing Aaron.

Now I need to go nurse that Miller Genuine Draft that I have kept on ice this past hour.

This has nothing to do with Bush, so don't even bring him up. If you can't understand what I mean than I can't help you. I said, I'm nervous that he might choke, you know, like stage fright, where you finally get there and you sit real still because you don't know what to do and your brain can't think of anything other than, "OMG OMG OMG OMG!"

Until you address the question no one can take you seriously.

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No, Elitist means.

1. practice of or belief in rule by an elite.
2. consciousness of or pride in belonging to a select or favored group.

Economic Belief does not qualify in making you Elitist specially when you are a Free Market Capitalist which I am. If you knew about Free Market Capitalism, you'd clearly understand I am not elitist.

Elite in the true since of the word means better then Normal people. But that is negated because everyone is better at something then others.

Obama qualifies as Elitist because He thinks Blue Dog Democrats (the working class) clings to their guns and religion because they are middle class. He thinks their believes and values are s h i t.

If I was elitist, I would be agreeing with Obama. I do not. As I grew up and was raised by those working class elite who "cling to their guns and religion". Obama forgot where he came from. Not I.

So spin your bs elsewhere.

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Beagán agus a rá go maith.

Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.87

Elitist means imperically better, not just better at something, but better in general. That said, nothing about capitalism makes capitalists elitists. Sure there are some that are, just like there are some communists that are, and some democrats that are, and some republicans that are, and some...(continues for every single political following).

Anyway. I think that even if Obama fails, that will not mean that a republican will take the office in 2012, nor will a republican take over indicate that Obama did fail.

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Of course, you must be speaking from personal experience. My brain never does that.
The man went to Harvard....I'm almost sure, he would be the least likely candidate to 'choke"...Your youth and naivete definitely color your....... "opinion".

I have to laugh,...gunners have lost more 2nd Amendment rights under Republicans than Democrats, and these fear mongers are too propagandized with demo BS they have on blinders.

=================Republicans can look with one squinted eye if need be.........

Nixon; 'Guns are an abomination.' Free from fear of gun owners' retaliation at the polls, he favored making handguns illegal and requiring licenses for hunting rifles.
--- William Safire (originally from a New York Times column), Los Angeles Daily News, June 15, 1999, P. 15.

Reagan; "You do know that I'm a member of the NRA, and my position on the right to bear arms is well known. But I want you to know something else, and I am going to say it in clear, unmistakable language. I support the Brady Bill, and I urge Congress to enact it without further delay".
Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street."
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, also known simply as the Brady Bill.


G. Bush; Banned the import of "assault weapons" in 1989, and promoted the view that Americans should only be allowed to own weapons suitable for "sporting purposes."

"This is a president who has been so good on the Second Amendment that it's just unbelievable to gun owners that he would really sign the ban," said Grover Norquist, a leading conservative and an NRA board member who opposes the nationwide ban on semiautomatic assault weapons.


G.W.Bush; Bush: "I don't think we ought to be selling guns to people who shouldn't have them. That's why I support instant background checks at gun shows. One of the reasons we have an instant background check is so that we instantly know whether or not someone should have a gun or not."

Would sign, but would not push, gun restrictions. (Apr 14)
Ban automatic weapons & high-capacity ammunition clips. (Apr 2)
Raise legal age for guns to 21; ban certain ammo. (Aug 1999)
Gun restrictions OK within basic right to own guns. (May 1999)
Gun show checks OK; ban guns near schools & kids. (Apr 1999

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Vote like your life and your families life depends on it - because it does.

Vote like you want peace & prosparity for America - because the right wants more wars, more casualities, more VA hospitals.

Vote like you want a secured border from terrorists, illegal aliens, drugs, and gun runners - because the right offerred you a few miles of wire fence.

Harvard doesn't have a "being POTUS 101" class.

Havard doesn't prepare you for the challenges of being the POTUS. No, McCain and Clinton would be the least likely to choke because they have a lot more experience in congress and the WH (that doesn't mean I trust them to make the right decisions).

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