Violalee do you know the size of a brigade?

Army Chain of Command (Organization)

The site gives the entire organization of the military infantry command.

Brigade - 3,000 to 5,000 solders. A brigade headquarters commands the tactical operation of two to five organic or attached combat battalions. Normally commanded by a colonel with a command sergeant major as senior NCO, brigades are employed on independent or semi-independent operations. Armored cavalry, ranger and special forces units this size are categorized as regiments or groups.

And in a war with all that has happened and the time you can bet every one is near undermanned. So use the lower number.

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Yea can't keep the words of your great leader.

Prophet Muhammad - “Do you love your creator? Love your fellow-beings first.”

I agree it's not flip flopping...his advisor can say what he wants to and Obama can absolutely clarify his position and say he won't take that advice...we aren't electing his advisor.

Colin Powell said GW shouldn't go into Iraq and he didn't listen to that obviously. On another note if a former POW calls water boarding torture and vowes to do a full investigation then completely recants after a closed door session with GW I don't consider him any kind of military leader at all but the wrong kind.

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No your right but we don't need the rest of the GOP or DNC that comes with all three. Really one need look past the war, it is American that is dieing from inside out. Any of you have summer/winter homes overseas or in the Islands? Guess who does?

Check some of th edifferent video feeds. We are being fed a line of and told to bend over. jesse Ventira had a lot of real smart and solid points. But he isn't on then I think.

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Yea can't keep the words of your great leader.

Prophet Muhammad - “Do you love your creator? Love your fellow-beings first.”

mlurp, is English your first language? I have a hard time understanding your posts.

Not a big issue. That is why he has advisers and the joint chiefs of staff. They handle they details. I sometimes forget where I put my keys. We are only human.

We had this arguement months ago, ViolaLee. I told you then what has come true now. Obama is hoodwinking Americans into believing in him, and then all of a sudden...wooops, his people let the media know that it will be 60-80.000 in Iraq till 2010. More troops longer than promised. At least Obama was smart enough to have the advisers take the heat for the increase from his promised policy.

And all you can come back with is "his policy is evolving". What else will sudden evolve with his policy after his charismatic trance gets him elected? Reminds me of Bush saying 'Read my lips', and then they throw you a curveball. And you rationalize his backpeddling for him? Truly quintisential sheeple.

I told you so.

You don't know how to multiply and divide do you?

If we have 150,000 troops in Iraq, and a brigade has 3000 troops in it, and one brigade is brought home per month, how long will it take to get them all out?

50 months.

You need to stop lying about what Obama promised. Really. It's getting tedious.

Nic, Obama's initial promise was to end the war and have the troops out of Iraq within 16 months of him taking office? If he decides to follow his advisors and keep the troop level at 60-80,000 through 2010, will you have second thoughts about Obama's campaign? Just curious.

I feel that his advisors are prepping the general public. Part of Obama's platform was to get the troops out of Iraq by the end of 2009. It seems to me that he IS flip-flopping, only if he goes along with his advisors plan.

Obama will betray his promises to pull us out. Once he's in office, he'll discover how impossible that is, and issue a massive spate of double-talk to justify not only leaving our troops in Iraq, but probably increasing their numbers. Whenever I listen to either him or Hillary on Iraq, I'm painfully reminded of LBJ in 1964, when, running for office, he promised to not escalate U.S. involvement in Vietnam. The next year, he deployed 65,000 line troops into combat there, and thus began the full-on Americanization of the Vietnam War. Johnson did a complete '180' on his electoral promises.

It is the mindset of the politician. it makes no difference whether he pulls them out in 6 or 60 months, he wants them out and will constantly look for ways to do it. McCain has the opposite mindset and could care less how long we are there. If you are for a continued occupation, vote for McCain. If you are not for a continued occupation, vote for Obama. Timetables and promises are simply targets, there is no way at this point in time for either to definitively know how long it will take to accomplish them.

This country can't afford the continued occupation of Iraq.