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Old 04-09-2008, 11:23 PM
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Socialist "Utopia"?

Classic right wing post.

Obama is being called a socialist.

So what do you call the prostitutes in the white house that have sold out wholesale to billionaire military industrial complex corporations?

I call a prostitute a prostitute, and that describes both Bush and Cheney.

"Stay the course" actually means "stay the profits" for Bush billionaire buddies.
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Obama is being called a socialist.
He may just be one.
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:51 PM
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If you knew the definition of socialist, you wouldn't say that.
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If you knew the definition of socialist, you wouldn't say that.
Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
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Old 04-10-2008, 12:35 PM
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Any of various theories or systems of social organization in which the means of producing and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized government that often plans and controls the economy.
So Bush is a socialist then?
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Old 04-10-2008, 01:06 PM
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When Republicans want to go after Democrats they use the ol' socialist stereotype, that they are the only ones guilty of creating expensive social programs and benefits. But then Bush Republicans succumbed to a legion of billionaire Pharmaseutical Corporation and HMO lobbyists to create the medicare drug benefits. And that is called what? Socialism? Nope, that's OK because Bush did it. And to be precise, it was corporate welfare. Why do you think all of those lobbyists were town? If you trace the money, you will probably discover how many Republicans were wined, dined and bribed for their votes. And the PharmCorps and HMO's are now raking in profits hand over fist while the GAO clearly stated by its calculation this added $13 trillion to the longterm unfunded fiscal commitments and may end up bankrupting medicare.

So socialism for the billionaire corporations is OK but socialism for the public isn't?

And the truth is we need get beyond the Bush tax cut and wild out of control spending and the Democrat tax and spend. Don't trust either party when in comes to actually paying down the debt.
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What you've said is very perceptive Michael, John Pilger said that what we have now is a kind of socialism for the rich but capitalism for the poor.
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After 8 years of right wing politics in the White House, it's time for a good swing to the left. There's no way a Republican can win after this.
Why do you think that an incompetent left wing administration is going to be any better than the mess that is Bush? Especially in light of the fact that the next four years are going to be spent cleaning up the "poop" pile that Bush left...
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Points taken, all.

None of it matters. The Dems do not have anyone who can take the White House. They're going to need an entirely new kind of Leftist (perhaps one who isn't a communist... and a lawyer. ack!) if they ever want to see the highest office in the land again. Or, at least, one with better cammo. I have a feeling the traditional Democratic Party will have fallen by the time we see it happen, though.
i disagree. i think obama stands a very, very good chance of winning (barring any huge revelation or something) - even republicans (i will admit i voted republican last election, but am ashamed to admit it after bush's administration) - are getting sick and tired of the way the country is headed, the economy, iraq, and so forth.

if gas continues to rise and the economy continues to tank, with repubs in the WH they will probably take the hit.

as of now, at least, i would be surprised if obama is not the next president (based on current info and trends)
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i disagree. i think obama stands a very, very good chance of winning (barring any huge revelation or something) - even republicans (i will admit i voted republican last election, but am ashamed to admit it after bush's administration) - are getting sick and tired of the way the country is headed, the economy, iraq, and so forth.
I agree. Obama has a great chance of winning. He's the perfect candidate for the republican party. After four years of Obama, even Bush the moron could win a third term...
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