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Old 02-13-2008, 05:03 PM
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If congress is to attack this because of its affect on children, they should also go after the record companies pushing out hip-hop and rap that encourages kids to be stupid, sexist, homophobic, treat women like crap, spend all your money on bling and hydraulics, and carry firearms without a license in your baggy pants.

I'm not suggesting that they SHOULD be doing this UNLESS they continue on this "let's save sports" kick. If they're going to do a "let's save sports" thing, which they shouldn't, then they should also do "let's save music".
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Real simple for two reasons one is that it isn't fair and these ball players are hero's to many children.
Number two is that it gives then direction and avoids the real important issues. Not that this issue isn't important. It is for the reason first mentioned.
Come on people let them debate the issue thats why they were elected. It is nice to see them get together on something and get results. Which I must say is refreshing for once. And I would like this to go onward to the other sports and the Military and the ones who need it most of all the Contractors who guard and fight for the money!
hell if politics was a muscle match we would be checking the politicians. And they seem to have one speed. One thing at a time. Then several days of parties. And back to work. looooool
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I think it's up to Major League Baseball and the fans to determine whether steroid use should be allowed. Of course, what does it say about a person if that person has to cheat in order to win?
Major League Baseball and the fans obviously turn the blind eye. They are not the enforcers of the law. State and Federal Government are the enforcers and the law is pretty clear:

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Amid an atmosphere of searing political attention to the issue, both state and federal legislators publicly cried out for stiffer steroid laws. Citing a state survey of 500 high school students that found 11 percent of boys had used �performance-enhancing substances,� California State Senator Jackie Speier pushed a bill to make it is a misdemeanor in her state to sell or furnish to anyone under 18 years of age any dietary supplement containing androstanediol, androstanedione, androstenedione, norandrostenediol, norandrostenedione, or dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA). Although it overlooked many of the steroidal precursor products on the market, the bill, amending Section 110423.2 of California�s Health and Safety Code, was passed in September 2004 and signed by Gov. Schwarzenegger.

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Someone has to look into the continued abuse of this drug, for the sake of those who do not know any better. It's killing people. Congress HAS the right and responsibility to inquire about it.

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How many other industries should congress go after instead of paying attention to actually voting the way they CLAIM they believe? (their recent approval of yet another warrentless wiretapping bill is a good example) Oh yeah, because it's easy.
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Actually, you are not being accurate as to why the Olympic games were started. They did not start as "entertainment, as you are stating. It was started as an athletic competition:
Uh, they were put on during the worlds fair as entertainment, and to give depressed French youth something do to besides fight in wars. Because interest was gaining in the ancient Olympics was increasing does not change this.

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When employers drug test, they test according to federal guidelines for testing, to ensure that the tests are taken correctly and accurately. That's why they have federally approved labs for testing. If it's illegal, then it's not the employer that takes criminal action. It's the powers that be.
Actually not true at all. When and employee fails a drug test criminal action IS NOT TAKEN by the state. You have made a completely false statement.
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You've no idea of the way a kid's brain works, do you?
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Maybe athletes aren't role models to you, but I swim, and I try to make the great swimmers my role models.
And I did track and field (threw dicsus and shot) for 10 years from Jr. High through college. Never once did I look up to John Godina,or John Powel as a role model.
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Guess my point is on deft ears. Good night all. I'm sure you will solve the entire issue by the morning. I trust in you to debate it till it is over in Congress.
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Real simple for two reasons one is that it isn't fair and these ball players are hero's to many children.
Number two is that it gives then direction and avoids the real important issues. Not that this issue isn't important. It is for the reason first mentioned.
Come on people let them debate the issue thats why they were elected. It is nice to see them get together on something and get results. Which I must say is refreshing for once. And I would like this to go onward to the other sports and the Military and the ones who need it most of all the Contractors who guard and fight for the money!
hell if politics was a muscle match we would be checking the politicians. And they seem to have one speed. One thing at a time. Then several days of parties. And back to work. looooool
Why aren't steroids fair? There are sports were it is almost impossible to be world class without them, it is nothing more than a training supplement at that level.
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How many other industries should congress go after instead of paying attention to actually voting the way they CLAIM they believe? (their recent approval of yet another warrentless wiretapping bill is a good example) Oh yeah, because it's easy.

I could bring up a dozen other issues revolving around congress, but here we are discussing steroid use.
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If congress is to attack this because of its affect on children, they should also go after the record companies pushing out hip-hop and rap that encourages kids to be stupid, sexist, homophobic, treat women like crap, spend all your money on bling and hydraulics, and carry firearms without a license in your baggy pants.

I'm not suggesting that they SHOULD be doing this UNLESS they continue on this "let's save sports" kick. If they're going to do a "let's save sports" thing, which they shouldn't, then they should also do "let's save music".
They already did, and the result of all that is a "Lyrics Advisory" on the label of these cd's. Thanks to the liberal agenda, anything goes nowadays, in the name of freedom.
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