And then we have the media circus wasting a crap load of time covering the topic. Like, thanks fat corporate owned media. Why not show me Britney Spears on drugs for a whole hour again? I hate CNN, FOX News, and MNBC. They deserve death by horse cocks, to coin Phaedrus' phrase.

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Actually, you are not being accurate as to why the Olympic games were started. They did not start as "entertainment, as you are stating. It was started as an athletic competition:



When employers drug test, they test according to federal guidelines for testing, to ensure that the tests are taken correctly and accurately. That's why they have federally approved labs for testing. If it's illegal, then it's not the employer that takes criminal action. It's the powers that be.

Why the hell does congress care if baseball players use roids?

1) Because it's a no brainer and our congress needs no brainers.

2) Baseball is an allowed monopoly, a special exception to the laws. But this issue has nothing to do with that exception.

3) We need to have commercials on C-Span.

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I think it's up to Major League Baseball and the fans to determine whether steroid use should be allowed. Of course, what does it say about a person if that person has to cheat in order to win?

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Don't tell me what to do.

I just called Henry Waxman's office to leave a message for him that this is why congress's poll numbers are so low. They should be spending time working on the constitutional violations, not this drivel. Torture, illegal wiretapping, lies that took us to war...They vowed an oath to protect the constitution and they're spending time on steriods?!!?! Who gives a s h i t?

Here's the number, call him up if you're outraged at this waste of time. 800 828 0498

So you don't think Congress should protect America's "past time?"

All around the country children are taking performance enhancing drugs. When Congress makes a big stink about their use by professional athletes don't you think it sends a message?

On the other hand, if we had a few Rastafarians in Congress it might be a vast improvement.

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You've no idea of the way a kid's brain works, do you? Maybe athletes aren't role models to you, but I swim, and I try to make the great swimmers my role models.

Athletes are role models as well as entertainers.

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No, I think the teams and the fans should do it.

These are politicians we're talking about here: you don't really think anyone takes them seriously, do you?

Perhaps. Or at least replace a significant number of the Democrats and Republicans with people from other political parties.

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A panda walks into a cafe. He orders a sandwich, eats it, then draws a gun and fires two shots in the air.

"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.

"I'm a panda," he says at the door. "Look it up."

The waiter turns to the relevant entry and, sure enough, finds an explanation.

"Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves."

Actually, if I am not mistaken, that phrase came from this thread. It comes from historical context.
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If you think that your phone call with message to Waxman's office is going to change the way things operate, I would say that you DO NOT understand the way things are. How many phone calls were made to representatives of the people asking for impeachment of Bush...did it get them anywhere? Even though I understand your idealistic struggle to have the government listen to the people, at times it is futile.

If you think that leaving a message demanding results, and telling him that "this is why congress's poll numbers are so low", and that they should be "working on the constitutional violations, not this drivel" is going to get you anywhere, I suggest it's time for you to wake up and smell the politics.

Do you have STRONG evidence, not just your opinion, that there has been "Torture, illegal wiretapping", and "lies that took us to war"? If so, then please post that FACTUAL information in this forum. Even though I respect your opinion, it really has no place in a FACTUALLY based debate about steroid use in baseball.

According to your post, the politicians are NOT spending time protecting the constitution. Ask yourself how many of those politicians in power did you vote for? What promises did they make? And why are they not protecting your rights? The answer to these three questions may answer many of the other questions you may have about WHY things are the way they are.

I'm sure that Obama will make things all better for all Americans. But if he doesn't come through with his promises, what will you do then? Will you call and complain?