I have to agree with you there.

Short of the social scientists, this has been US policy in Iraq for literally years.

The key problem is that it doesn't work. There is no "Iraqi people". There is only Sunnis, Shi'ites, Christians, and factions within these groups. There is no 'neutral' Iraqi police force and there is no 'neutral' Iraqi Army and there is no 'neutral' Iraqi court system despite billions of US dollars and years of effort devoted to the task.

Just sayin'.

The Plan


I hate the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, and war in general. I've never seen a war I liked yet. I hate wars, conflicts, mobs, civil wars, riots, gang wars, drug wars, religious wars, World wars, and battles.


Now it wouldn't be right to complain about wars and not have a plan, so I have a plan.


I have a unique plan, a failsafe plan, a plan that has never been tried before, but should be tried tomorrow, a moving plan of people and things, a sweeping plan, an entry idea, an exit stratedgy, a great plan, a good plan, a loving plan, and a plan I planned to get our troops home by Christmas. It is a simple plan, easy plan, quick plan, low cost, high value, long lasting, short grasping, understandable, and damn near damnable in ending the task, ending the hardship, shifting the burden, reducing the load, lifting our hearts, and lowering our blood pressure.


We simply get our troops off foreign soil quickly, escape by any means, and regroup when we all get to America. How's that, huh? Cut & run, escape, and regroup on American soil. Thats a simple plan. It doesn't take to much to envision this great day in American history when I revealed this wonderful plan to you. It's so simple you can write it on the back of a business card.


I like this plan for a lot of reasons. It has a start and an end, it saves lives, gives us a new direction, cuts taxes, raises morale, lowers deaths, joins families, separates enemies, makes friends, and gives us a positive outlook with the world. I can see the troops arriving by every means possible, cars, vans, trucks, wheel barrows, gurneys, wheel chairs, trains, planes, ships, hot air balloons, donkey, horse back, rickshaw, fat womens singing back, and winnebaggo. Whatever it takes, whatever is fastest, whatever gets them here from there in the shortest, quickest, fastest, safest time we can possibly make for them.


What a plan,... it needs a number or name, something to make this simple idea look a lot more complicated than it really is. A name like the B-06 Plan, Screw The World Plan, U R on your own plan, the C U later plan..., I really like this plan. Maybe we shouldn't give it a name, confuse the media, be to quick for Congress, to slow for pin ball wizards, a total surprise, we won't even pull it off in October. They would be expecting another October Surprise but we will fool them this time. We will just call it the plan and pull it off in December.


So the plan is coming to your neighborhoods, be ready, open your doors, wash your windows, take down the yellow ribbons, put up the American flag, bake an apple pie, shine your shoes, cut your hair, trim your nails, iron a shirt or a dress, wear underware for a change. Clean your yard, wash your car, cut the lawn, hose the streets down, pick up the trash, put down the mat, and show our American troops that we took care of their America while they were gone.


The plan is coming folks, ...it really is.


Just cut & run, escape, regroup on American soil... is only the first part of the plan. A good plan always knows where it is going later, so I know where we are going with this plan. We are going into hibernation for the next 100 years. No more American wars. No more dead troops. No more massive defense budgets. Just Peace. Love. Stillness. Reflecting on life. Fishing a pond. Enjoying the arts, the shows, a real Renaissance of kick back, love thy neighbor, be a good Christian, practice peace, teach your children, have a bar-b-que in the back yard, a street party out front. Learn respect of your Country, its real values. A 100 years of learning what it really is to be a decent American.


Yes folks, the plan is coming and we should start getting ready for it. Spread the word, write it down, write it on overpasses, passing trains, send an email, call a neighbor, tell a friend, whisper to your lover, leave it as a tip, bring it up at the party, put it down on the front porch, take it to college, take it to work, pass it around, pass it back and forth. I think you get the idea.


Peace

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One Tin Soldier Walked Away...............


Vote like your life and your families life depends on it - because it does.

Vote like you want peace & prosparity for America - because the right wants more wars, more casualities, more VA hospitals.

Vote like you want a secured border from terrorists, illegal aliens, drugs, and gun runners - because the right offerred you a few miles of wire fence.

Leave now, replace our guys with UN troops. If they vote for it. Which they probably won't.

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"Moreover, I am cognizant of the interrelatedness of all communities and states...Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. Never again can we afford to live with the narrow, provincial "outside agitator" idea. Anyone who lives inside the United States can never be considered an outsider anywhere within its bounds."



~Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

So, after cutting away all the goo and dribble... You want us to become French?

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An' it harm none, do as ye' will.


Never argue with an idiot. He'll just drag you down to his level of intelligence and beat you with experience.

But each one of those unique groups could potentially live in harmony if the right things where done. Appealing to religious leaders to kick out the extremists and such I feel would be a great way to help stabilize Iraq some. And thank you for reminding me, social scientists, I forgot what they where called ha ha. I read an article the other day and it seems like it is actually starting to help some.

This problem is very unique because like White Rabbit mentioned, there are no unified Iraqi people. Unlike Germany or Japan, those where easy to rebuild because they where all the same. Lets keep the idea's coming.

Geeze, I would shoot all mah ammo up the first day and come home on the second day.

I think a lot of the work could be turned over to automated warfare, such as listening devices, cams, spy satellites, drones, and overhead response teams by gunships, jets & artillery. And I would have no problem with our people engaging the enemy in this remote-way of warfare that does not put their lives in danger.

If they want to murder their own people, I say stand back and let them do it. The people need to get in the defend themselves mode. And we need to get out of a country where we are the major animosity.

We have been asked to leave at least twice - so leave!

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One Tin Soldier Walked Away...............


Vote like your life and your families life depends on it - because it does.

Vote like you want peace & prosparity for America - because the right wants more wars, more casualities, more VA hospitals.

Vote like you want a secured border from terrorists, illegal aliens, drugs, and gun runners - because the right offerred you a few miles of wire fence.

Well yes, and you might add, "Alive" French. Alive to eat the cheese, the bread, and taste the women and wine.

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One Tin Soldier Walked Away...............


Vote like your life and your families life depends on it - because it does.

Vote like you want peace & prosparity for America - because the right wants more wars, more casualities, more VA hospitals.

Vote like you want a secured border from terrorists, illegal aliens, drugs, and gun runners - because the right offerred you a few miles of wire fence.

You might note the sarcasm. And have you ever tasted French cheese? Have you ever smelled it? Urgh. I admit that not all French cheese is smelly, but the vast majority of it is, and they consider the smellier ones to be better. I'll stick with Danish Havarti, please. [/irrelevant]

You think we aren't already doing that? But sometimes you just need people on the ground with guns to do a job. In fact, most of the time you need people on the ground. Listening devices, cameras, and satellites can tell you where the "bad guys" are, but they won't kill them, and artillery is just about useless in urban warfare. Something about collateral damage or such. So unless you want to use a JDAM to take out every single enemy, you've got to use troops, and I'd like to point out that JDAMs cost a million bucks a shot. But you don't care about that, since you're such a Hillary fanatic.

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An' it harm none, do as ye' will.


Never argue with an idiot. He'll just drag you down to his level of intelligence and beat you with experience.

Come on people, anyway to stay on track with the theme of this thread? Check it out:

ALL suggestions are accepted and important. I don't want this thread to become a slam fest for wonderful suggestions. Thanks.