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Originally Posted by redwards
Of course not. The concept is fundamentally unscientific. There's no way this is going to change how science works, all it's going to do is reignite the passions of morons in middle america who don't understand science but put their faith in religion.
This isn't going to do a damn thing to genuine science education. Maybe, MAYBE they get enough morons elected to change the science curricula of a few rural middle schools, but no one is going to have to sit through a talk about 'intelligent design' in any university which isn't run by religious fundamentalists and already teaching this crap.
At the end of the day, people who promote these ideas are ignore by genuine scientists because their ideas are BAD, and nothing is going to change that.
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Thanks for the answer and I'll assume you are correct. But I keep wondering whether or not the religious in the US are large enough in numbers to force their idiocy upon the rest.
I've never been able to determine accurately just how many are young earthers but I have reasons to suspect that if the question is put to them in the proper manner we would find over half of them having to either put down their religious beliefs outright or they would have to relent and say they are young earthers. The question is so direct and to the point that they have no choice. That estimate presumedly being close to correct or even on the conservative side, I wonder if the majority wouldn't support the ID agenda and even force sensible politicians into having to make the obvious choice. Creation or evolution? I don't think a politician can hedge on that one without using some very, very 'creative' thinking. Creationism in science classrooms is the next step and definitely their agenda. Even if it didn't reach university level the damage would be done to the children before they even got there.
Having said that I should just say that one of the main reasons why the ID ideas are to be avoided by mainstream religion is because it leaves no room to maneuver in the least. They really don't want to go there and the irreducible complexity issue which soundly whacked them down in Dover is but one reason why not. If they have any sense at all, which I frankly wonder if they have or not, they will draw a very broad bright red line between religion and science. Mlurp for one doesn't understand that and neither do a lot of others. They think they have a winner here with Stein's movie while all along they are trudging down a path of no return. What happens when their backs are against the wall as they surely will be?