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Originally Posted by White Rabbit
Read the US Libertarian manifesto. Liberty for individuals is only an afterthought and granted only when it doesn't interfere with liberty for capital.
I've gone through the US Libertarian party manifesto point by point and post it previously. I can't be bothered doing it again since the hard-core US Libertarian party members just deny it and pretend otherwise.
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I have participated in two LP campaigns, one presidential. I am a MEMBER of the party. We don't have a manifesto, and our politics are individual-centered, not capital-centered. Yes, the right to accrue and create capital is an important part of our platform, but that is a consequence of individual liberty. If we were in favor of the right to accrue capital at the expense of individual liberty, we would support subsidies to corporations, which, in fact, we reject out of hand.
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Every political party has one. Go check our your party website.
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http://www.lp.org
It's my homepage. The closest thing we have to a "manifesto" is the Statement of Principles (found
http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtml ). You'll notice that INDIVIDUAL rights are listed FIRST and trade issues second. Hell, we address gender rights before starting in on economics. You're wrong, you didn't even bother to look this up. Had you done the 5min of google searching, you wouldn't be making such absurd accusations.
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I have been very explicit - I am referring to US Libertarian party.
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And you're wrong, see above.
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I'm not talking about random libertarian nutjobs posting blogs.
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Then about whom are you talking? I just demonstrated that Libertarian Party is dedicated to individual liberty first and foremost. You can't win this argument, I've been shouting these principles at rallies and campaigns since I was 17.
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And if you understood political philosophy, that which is not created by humans, ipso facto, must have been mystically created by God.
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Not true. Your dichotomous relationship requires that rights need to be created to be understood, this is illogical. Whether God exists or not (and I believe he does not), humans, absent other human interaction are alive, free from intervention, and able to create and own property.
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There is only two choices here. Either your rights were created by humans acting in concert, or by God granting those rights. There is no other option available here.
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See above.
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Again, you deny humans create these rights and you deny God creates these rights.
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Because rights to life, liberty, and property are not creations, they are understandings.
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So where did they come from? How do you know they are there?
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Walk into a room by yourself. Nobody will kill you, nobody will enslave you, and nobody will steal from you. This is the basis of individual rights.
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This is colorful. No doubt the irony of your words escapes you.
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I just demonstrated that you have no grasp of the Libertarian Party's platform, and that you are incapable of thinking beyond a simple black/white relationship. Visit the links I've provided and try to tell me that my party supports economic freedom moreso than individual liberty.