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Old 03-11-2008, 03:03 PM
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Do you think it's OK for a toxic waste company to buy the property next door and dump their toxic waste right next to where you live?
OK? No, I don't. I would view that as rather impolite. But in the context of government regulation: I don't think there should be any laws against it. I think it can be settled between individuals.

Does the dumping of toxic waste have a measurable detrimental direct effect on me, i.e., does it harm me in any manner that can be measured? If so, then I would imagine I would have a civil case against the company.


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Libertarians are for destroying the department of education too, right?
Yes.

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These aren't libertarian ideals. Libertarians are against government regulations. All of these answers are for government regulations. These are liberal ideals. Protecting the people through laws and regulations.
Wrong. Nobody in those quoted posts said that they wanted government regulations regarding the dumping of toxic waste. Again, libertarians are in favor of making use of civil courts.

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Phædrus - school is free now. If the dept of education is disbanded, only the kids who's parents have money will be able to afford to go to school.
School is not free. We pay for school. In fact, we pay more than $14,000 per student. Meanwhile, our rankings on international tests have been dropping ever since ED was established (I doubt that's a coincidence). South Korea, on the other hand, pays a relative $3,000 per student, and they rank higher than us on international tests.

Additionally consider that the entirety of the post-war economic boom, and nearly two decades thereafter, didn't have a federal Department of Education, and our education system was the best in the world during that time. Moreover, we didn't have ED during the most productive years humanity has ever seen: the late 19th century. In fact, we didn't have any federal departments reigning over the education system of America during that time. And again, those were the most productive years in not just America, but the entire world, with America being the most productive.

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And the families who die of cancer because of the toxic waste that was dumped? They are just collateral damage?
This is dishonest. The government regulations regarding toxic waste are not proactive in the slightest. The families die before government regulation is put into place. So I guess you're OK with killing families. Murderer. :rolleyes:

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I don't think capitalism is inherently flawed. I just think that deregulating everything, as libertarians would like, is begging for disaster.
Most things ought to be deregulated. These matters can be handled in civil courts. The role of government ought to be to protect freedom. That is: laws that serve only to protect citizens from force, a division to enforce those laws, and a court system to objectively determine guilt and uphold private contracts.
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