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Originally Posted by Skerlnik
Grim, I think you severely overestimate the Vast Liberal Conspiracy. At least its impact.
If what you assert really is true, how can we explain the rather rightward shift of the national character overthe last 20-25 years? This election will again be a fairly tight one, and it's not all that certain Obama will win at all. Even so, Congress maintains such a balance for status quo (you can't count on Democrats to vote Democrat at all), that it's unlikely there will be any sort of massive leftward shift.
If you think the MSM is some liberal propaganda machine, it's a pretty pathetic one, and not worthy of losing sleep over.
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grim obviously sees it as a vast left wing conspiracy... but I'm not sure why...
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Originally Posted by sleuth
because the liberal media is preoccupied with holding the conservative (and more biased) media accountable, as they are prone to spin and lies in order to preserve the status quo at all costs.
what gains?
the al-maliki government is no closer, today, to a working government, representative of all factions, than the day when it took power.
al-maliki said in der spiegel, he agreed with the timetable obama suggested. what did the bush white house do, but proclaim him as misinterpreted
more propaganda, don't you think.
in case you had not noticed, it don't play like it used to. bush has no political capital in da vault.
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as I said earlier, just because Fox noise says something, doesn't make it true.
just because Fox claims the benchmarks have been met, doesn't mean they are...
yep... if it looks like propaganda and sounds like propaganda... it's probably on Fox...
nope... he spent it all on giving that gal, Katrina, a heckofa good time...
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Originally Posted by Affrayer
The success of FAUX News is equatable to pornography on the internet. There is always an audience for Perversion and Titelation...
In Faux's case, they have an audience composed of those people stupid enough to have voted for Bush and dumb enough to think he's doing a good job...
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excellent point... almost worthy of a sigline quote...
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Originally Posted by Grim17
Well here's an absolute shock!
Affrayer ignores the topic of the thread and instead goes off topic to attack Bush and FOX News.
Who didn't see that coming?
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how so? he commented on Fox... and of course those who watch it...
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Originally Posted by Grim17
Well, you might as well lock this one down too OE. Not because it breaks the rules, but because the liberals here refuse to have a civil discussion.
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awwwwww, poah wittle Gwim... poah ting... he's gonna take his Fox Noise and wun along home and not share wiff us anymore...
cmon back, gwim, it's ok... you can have your delusions that Fox is fair and balanced... we won't...
WAIT!
of course we will dash them to the ground in bits and pieces...
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Originally Posted by sleuth
aww. grim widdle feewins is hoit, cause they won't answer the way he sees fit
such whining.
are all ex-military whiners?
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poah gwim...
uhhh no... I'm ex-military... take a good long look at my avatar...
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Originally Posted by Birdzeye
Oh, puh-leeze, Grim! The tone of your posts is consistently hostile and belligerent. It's not conducive towards having a "civil" discussion. If that's what you want, you'll deep six the hostility, and stop starting baiting threads.
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not our grim... bluster is all he has... him and his cowboy hero...
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Originally Posted by sleuth
i'm thinking emergency enema.
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I don't wanna see that... closes eyes...
TIGHTLY>>>
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Originally Posted by Southern Man
Grim: These libs can never address the issues that you address because they know that you are right.
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oh really?
since Grim doesn't appear as if he's going to be able to post responses to my questions, and since you seem to be taking up his mantle, would you mind answering these questions I directed AT Grim...
first, list all the benchmarks that bush laid out for them to meet way back when he initiated the surge. (January 2007)
second, please list how and when those benchmarks were met.
Thanks...
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Originally Posted by Birdzeye
And what issues are those? All we get from him is baiting and mindless insults, no signs of interest on his part in having a "civil" discussion.
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It's his charm...
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Originally Posted by sleuth
why do most reasonable people find this assertion ludicrous?
because it is. liberals addressing an issue or not, has nothing to do with lies being asserted as truth. fox is the most skewed and biased news source, and err'body knows it.
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everybody but those folks that swear up and down that they are fair and balanced... IOW, their listeners/viewers...
and everyone that gets their news elsewhere, knows differently...