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Old 07-17-2008, 04:09 PM
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Lets see.....where to begin.....

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Originally Posted by AHFN
When I run across a Fiscal Libertarian, or Libertarian Party Libertarian, they immediately assume that I'm an ally in all respects. When I reveal that I think they're a bunch of nuts, I'm instantly crucified as a heretic. Quite annoying.
First, what makes you think they 'are a bunch of nuts?'
Second, perhaps they would not try to crucify you if you wouldn't call them nuts. Just food for thought.

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Originally Posted by AHFN
So really, it's tough being Libertarian, especially since 90% of people immediately stereotype you into groups which you do not agree with at all. I'm being fired on from three sides at all times. The Liberals are worst at it, but the Neo-Cons are bad too.
Join the club.

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Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant
No problem, I hope that more people can do this in every aspect, not just libertarianism, but liberals and conservatives and socialists and everyone else. I hate this classifing BS that goes on by extremists.
Agreed, but it happens within the LP as well.

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Originally Posted by AHFN
The average person knows nothing of Libertarianism except for what he hears about the Libertarian Party, which is so far right wing that even many right-wingers refuse to associate with it. Thus we always get a bad name from everyone. Not just one side, but all sides.
How so? Most of the objections I get are accusations that we (the LP) are a bunch of anarchist, hell bent on burning down DC and planting weed.

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Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant
And his nomination shows that the members are not the party. There are two parts, the members and the party. The party should be following it's members, but it has shown, with Bob Barr, that it is not.
Sophistry. The delegates ARE the party. If you are an LP member and you failed to attend your state / national convention, you have no room to bitch.

Additionally, I have seen the transformation of Barr over the years. He did not 'flip-flop.' He had a genuine conversion.
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