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Old 07-10-2008, 10:38 PM
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No, you want to make it mean something else because you would be proven wrong.
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You use the word hero too much. There are no heroes in wars. Just the lucky and unlucky.
Look up "Pavlov's House."
And last I checked, no one made you the king of the word "hero."


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No, you said 25k in your op. I corrected you. Don't spin it.
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Gettysburg didn't matter. I am telling you the end started in May 1863 with the loss of Stonewall Jackson. The Army of the Northern Virginia could have won at Gettysburg but they still would have lost the war. The Confederates didn't have the man power and the Union just had to bleed them out like they did during 1864 and 1865 with U.S. Grant running the show.
Every action in a war matters. That's like saying Kursk didn't matter because Stalingrad was the real turning point of World War 2.

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I know this isn't addressed to me, but.. its a helluva lot more complicated then what you said. Antietam didn't really help the Union, it was a clusterfvck for them. Lee out commanded McClellan with a force half the size of McClellan's.

European possibility was not going to happen. The failure of many Historians is that to keep UK (England) out of the war it didn't come down to Slavery but many factors. Like the threat of Union support in Ireland. The Union created the Irish Brigade in late 1861 and gave command to (Thomas Francis Meagher) who was one of the masterminds to the 1848 Irish Rebellion.. He recruited only the Irish. Lincoln saw the Irish Brigade as a way to give a warning to UK (England)... the kind of " I am arming the Irish, just remember that".. and it was completely against the gain of the Republican Party at that time.
Yeah, the British also started getting cotton from India instead of the CSA, right?

And I agree that Antietam was a tactical cluster**** for the Union, but strategically, it was a Union victory, because the Confederates retreated afterward.
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