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They are heroes in the same way that the Confederates who made Picket's Charge are heroes.
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But those Confederates are just racist to you..
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What Lee told Jefferson fits in quite well with the fundamental conflict in the Confederacy between the two of them. Lee wanted to destroy the Union army in the field, whereas Davis advocated a strong defensive posture. So the attack on Gettysburg was advertised by Lee as a small raid to throw the federals onto the defensive, because Davis would not have gone along with it had it been otherwise.
I have read multiple books on this subject, I have no idea where I can find any internet resources to prove it. Undoubtedly you will simply write me off as a liar or something, which will then only prove to me that further debate with you on this subject is useless.
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Quote some books. I have 4 shelves filled with books on the Civil War. I am pretty sure you can quote a book I have.
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Excuse me, I meant to ask if he was commanding the Army of Northern Virginia. I put forward the idea that the Army of Northern Virginia no longer had any capacity for offensive action, and even this little raid by Early doesn't seem to be any sort of strategic assault, more of a tactical raid.
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A little raid? 14,000 Confederates in D.C. limits is a little raid?
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According to the figures I've seen, it was around 25,000 on both sides.
And even so, 2,000 either way is hardly a huge thing.
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Thats 2 regiments. That would be like saying the 20th Maine or the 54th Mass were hardly a huge thing.
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Yeah, because we all know that troops could magically teleport to threatened sectors without any risk of their own more weakly defended sectors being attacked.
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As yes, because lines never extended more the 5 miles. An avg Union and Confederate Solider marched 12 miles a day. Union troops were moved from the Flanks (the weaker areas) to the Center on day 3. One such unit was the 20th Maine (the unit that held the left flank on Little Round Top). Disproving your theory.
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I don't really have a whole DC theory, but had the Confederates won the battle of Gettysburg, do you agree that the war's outcome may well have been quite different? That's all I am saying right now. You've taken a casual statement I made and blown it out of proportion entirely. You're right, I should have said "determined to dislodge them in order to facilitate the peace meal destruction of the Union Army. I didn't. I suppose I'm now paying for that with your completely unprovoked ridicule.
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No, it would not have made a difference as Vicksburg still fell. On top of that, the North was all Industrial and had a larger population to draft from. No Army using Napoleon tactics is going to win a war with fewer troops.
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