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First point (terrain): you've obviously never been to the same Gettysburg that I have.
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As AHFN told you.. I was right. I grew up near Gettysburg (little down called Waynesboro).. I know the area and I know the Battle like the back of my hand as it was drilled into my head every year growing up. In fact, the town I grew up in was the first stop in Pa for the Confederates (stayed there for a total of 13 days) and it was the first stop during their retreat.
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Second point (outnumbering): again, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. That refers to numbers of troops overall under Meade and Lee.
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So the Army of Potomac had more troops.
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The Union troops fighting in the hills were often outnumbered in their local sectors.
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LMAO, Sector? The those hills weren't even 2 miles from the whole Army of the Potomac on the 1st and 2nd day. It was a Command decision that "put them outnumbered".. and by the way holding a hill is a hell of a lot easier then storming up a hill.
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Third point (Confederate intent): I probably shouldn't have written that the capture of Washington was a main cause, I know. The real reason was that Lee wanted to destroy the Army of the Potomac. However, it isn't like the road to Washington would not have been open had the Union troops had lost.
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It wasn't to destroy the Army of the Potomac. He could have done that at Fredricksburg or Chancellorsville but didn't because the Rule of War at the time were about being "gentlemenly". It was about supplies and getting the Army of the Potomac on the Defensive. Lee achieved that.
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And both times they ended up failing. Another principle of war which you fail to grasp is that usually when one side makes a mistake, especially more than once, they don't try the same thing again.
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No, during the First Bull Run, the Federal Army (Army of the Potomac) fled from the battle. The Army of the Potomac would have easily been crushed if basic Military squabbling didn't happen.
Second Bull Run was a win for the Confederates as well.
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What conclusions did I offer? The battle destroyed Lee's army's offensive capability, and that it had suffered 25,000 casualties are wrong assumptions or conclusions? Incorrect, they are both factual statements.
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It did not destroy the offensive capability. A year later Jubal Early marched all the way Washington DC.. they fought 2 little known battles one called Monocacy and Fort Stevens. 23k casualties happened at Gettysburg, the Union had the same amount.
I just proved your statement factually incorrect on both accounts.
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Sorry, buddy, but you're just nitpicking because you were rooting for the racist dickwads to win.
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No, I am nitpicking because you are incorrect. Ah yes, because you know so much about the Confederates to make that kind of judgment.
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