07-05-2008, 01:08 AM
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Off With Their Heads
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Uh... it was July 1st - 3rd 1863. You can't even get the dates of the events right.
Yeah, I mistyped three for four. My bad.
The Confederates did not attack a heavily wooded area on July 1st-3rd but an areas called Cemetery Ridge, Seminary Ridge, Little and Big Round top (wooded), Devils Den, Wheat Field, Culp Ridge/Hill (wooded) most of the fight which was not woods but open area. Hell, only a few areas of Gettysburg is wooded and the Federal forces (Army of the Potomac had 93k compared to the 75k Confederates), so the Confederates were out numbered. Going to Gettysburg wasn't about dislodging Union troops and finding a road to Washington D.C. It was about finding supplies and taking the War to Northern States.
First point (terrain): you've obviously never been to the same Gettysburg that I have.
Second point (outnumbering): again, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. That refers to numbers of troops overall under Meade and Lee. The Union troops fighting in the hills were often outnumbered in their local sectors. Obviously you have no idea of the idea of "local superiority," where a smaller force that better concentrates its units can achieve numerical superiority during combat situations in specific areas. A good example would be the Battle of the Bulge, where, even though the overall Wermacht
was gravely outnumbered by the Allied armies, a 200,000-man force along with hundreds of tanks was able to achieve local superiority.
Third point (Confederate intent): I probably shouldn't have written that the capture of Washington was a main cause, I know. The real reason was that Lee wanted to destroy the Army of the Potomac. However, it isn't like the road to Washington would not have been open had the Union troops had lost.
If the Confederates wanted to get to Washington they would have gone to Manassas as they did 2 times before that (Bull Run and Second Bull Run).
And both times they ended up failing. Another principle of war which you fail to grasp is that usually when one side makes a mistake, especially more than once, they don't try the same thing again.
Adams and Franklin Co Pa were important areas due to its industry and food supplies. Just as Fredrick and Washington Co Md were as well.
These counties were raided by Confederates through out the whole war. Chambersburg Pa was sacked 2 times (October 10th, 1862 and July 30th 1864), one of those times it being burned to the ground on July 30th 1864.
Don't see the point of this.
During the Gettysburg Campaign Confederates went all the way to Harrisburg Pa looking for supplies. The Confederates even out flanked the Army of the Potomac when they were Harrisburg and Wrightsville Pa along the Susquehanna River (on June 28th and June 29th)..
So your conclusions are wrong.The Confederates could have marched all the way to New York City with ease.
What conclusions did I offer? The battle destroyed Lee's army's offensive capability, and that it had suffered 25,000 casualties are wrong assumptions or conclusions? Incorrect, they are both factual statements.
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Sorry, buddy, but you're just nitpicking because you were rooting for the racist dickwads to win.
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