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Originally Posted by Finny
Scottish Soldiers patrolled Northern Ireland and were some of the most hate bunch out of the British Army (Blackwatch) and they did it for the Crown but thats what happens when you carry out the order of the Queen. Stop carrying out the orders for the Crown.
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Soldiers follow orders. Policy is not theirs to make.
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No, I am not British. Never have been and never will be. I do not come from Scotland, Wales or England. 
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You didn't mention NI.
I hope so. If it does, there will be insurrection, which is exactly what the nationalists want. It would galvanise the people into supporting their cause.
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So, no you do not have Scottish Soldiers fighting for Scotland. You have Scots fighting for the UK. 
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So? What do you expect, me to dispute indisputable facts?
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Thats because you know I am right.
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As always...
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Then you do not have your own Economy. You have a UK economy.
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Right again.
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I have a country called the Republic of Ireland, which I don't have to "fight" with the Brits to get what I want. I already have 3/4ths of what I want.. how much of Scotland is defended by your own Scottish Army? You were saying?
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Scotland is a country regardless. Which happens to be temporarily allied in a political union of expediency. This union is about to be dissolved...I hope. But I can be patient, if it means people will not die to achieve that.
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1. I won't have to sell out. 2. It shows I don't bow down to anybody. Blue Blood or not.
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Yes. You are a man.
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Swallow what? The BS of the Crown for another 8 centuries? Nah, I'll pass.
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Swallow your stubborn male...sorry. What I meant to say was, put your country's needs before your need to display your backbone.
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Those "neanderthals" defeated the UK. In 1800 to 1915 we got nowhere. We got home rule and it was taken away. In 1916-1921.. we got 3/4th of Ireland. Tell me what got us further again?
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The world has changed. There is a political process available to you now and no need to use violence...on this occasion.
Tell me again how your people are being disadvantaged by the union? I think they are not. Is your only complaint that you want to be ruled democratically from Ireland, rather than Westminster?
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So the rest of the UK is going to vote in who again? More Labour Party members? Cause if they don't, old Gordie is gone.
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I hope he will be gone. I did not vote him in.
I have limits. You know I will stand up always. Even if I disagree with the method of violence I would rather stand up than see injustice prevail.
I would try first though, to make people see that there is a better way, or an alternative way, than killing.
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Read up on the Battle of the Boyne. Also read up on Robert the Bruce.
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Oh. Those.
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So, if all countries allow the Palestinians and the Israelis to talk on their own and address those issues without influence, I am sure they can reach an agreement.
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I thought you were the realist.
Palestinians would cease to exist and Israel would do all the killin'...happy days. Not.
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There is only sectarian divide in Northern Ireland because the British Government took one group and said you are better then these people.
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There may be a base to that statement.
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She is of German decent but the House gained control via the Normans. The House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (renamed the House of Windsor) via the House of Wettin by marriage. Your future King will be a Mountbatten - Windsor (Wettin).
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I know her lineage. Her mother was Scottish.
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Well, my DNA says some of my ancestors are Basque but it doesn't make me Basque now does it?
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Your parents being born in Ireland, does seem to make you think you are Irish. As her mother would indicate she is half Scottish.
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We don't buy into Royal Family crap?
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Why do you put such high importance on the royals. They are all but an irrelevance in government today. They have some measure of influence, but no real power as such.
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I'll compromise with fellow Irish or Americans dealing with Irish or American issues. I will not compromise my principles for a group of people/Government who think they have a right to a country that never should have been in. Once you recognize that, you recognize their rule. I do not recognize their rule.
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Who are you to say that? You were presumably not born in Ireland and do not live there. Why is it your business, if it is not theirs?
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Its not a different one. Its the same issue.
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I addressed it.
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We maintained solidarity when we all rejected British "rights" to Ireland. When Sinn Fein recognized it, it only solidified British rule. That is the complete opposite of what we want.
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Why did they recognise it? Their beliefs did not change, so what are their reasons? Sure they have some.
Possibly to get in and further your aims from the inside...
...(never get tired of suggesting it)
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If they were working for Irish aims, they would have rejected Policing by the British Government as the RUC = PSNI. Sinn Fein had no problem showing a hardline 20 years ago, but secretly talked to the British Government. I expect them to take a hardline all the time.
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Yes. You are diehard. And very tough. I will not say entrenched.
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The PM works for the Queen. The PM is the go between. Thats why Gordie wants the House to get rid of some of powers he has. I.E. like making war.
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Uhhh...the PM works for the country, the electorate and the Queen rubber stamps. She has no ability to do anything other. I don't know why you have this fixation on her as the power and the brains of the outfit.
He wants the decision on war to be taken collectively. He has punted other responsiblities also, to make them less subject to political bias. He does have some ethics left (despite his sad performance as PM to date).
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So, Ohio does things like that, but the Federal Government still controls us.
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Ohio does not do things like that deliberately to spark angry debate in England and cause an increase in support for dissolution of the UK union. Which is what Alex Salmond is doing.
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Oh, you mean Steakknife? Big deal. If old Scapi sets foot in Ireland again, He knows it's the death of him. Just like it was for Denis Donaldson.
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I have never heard of this person before yesterday. The spelling of his name was taken directly from the website you gave me in the previous posts, as were the details of his story.
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How can you skin a cat humanely? The cat still has to die right?
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Why does anyone have to die, Finny?
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So a mother would not use her instinct to protect her child? She would not kill for her child when it become a matter of life or death?
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To defend her child. That is different from going out to kill innocent people, including children, when there is another way forward and it could be avoided.
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I don't want to mettle in Foreign Affairs that do not pertain to me. But being aggressive is not a bad thing when you want others out of your affairs. Nobody in Ireland wants to rule the UK. They just want you out of Irish Affairs. Your analogy here does not work. As you are trying to compare Offensive Aggression with Defensive Aggression (action vs reaction).
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I edited that to refer to US foreign policy, which is interventionist and intrusive and wholly based on the kick-*** attitude you described and have inherited as part of your country's culture. It is overly aggressive.
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Uh, last I checked it happen in South Africa little less then 24 years ago. Happen in the Balkans during the 90s.
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The other ways to achieve your aims are still in existence.
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Why would I, a person who rejects the notion of British rule in Ireland as acceptable and reject the idea of the EU just as much as the 54% (Majority) of Irish, go to these bodies of Government and enlist the help of them?
That negates the idea of rejecting them. As you are using their form of Government, which is what they want, to get an idea that a bunch of other EU countries who have not defended Irish rights since the founding of the EU (EEC).
You are telling me to act like the dog chasing it's tail.. never catching it. 
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The EU is to be rejected now also? Does Southern Ireland know what awaits it?...
Ireland is part of the EU. Southern Ireland? You will be working in that framework irrespective of what you do.
To me, what you are doing is returning to chasing your tail as the IRA did in previous times. Looking at the website you linked me to, and lists of pages and pages of dead people...I did not realise how many died in this horrible struggle, there are so many of them.
I really understand what you say. But were people happier during that period, when people were being shot dead in their homes, in front of their children...
I just can't see it as better. Returning to that is madness.
And I did not overlook your avoidance of the question on how much support these strategies of yours have amongst your people.