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Old 06-25-2008, 08:22 PM
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And what have I said that isn't true in this topic? Not one damn thing.
It is not objective.

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Oh yes, they were regarded as that because your ignorant political leaders were dumbfounded when a group of people said enough with shooting protesters (Bloody Sunday) and running over kids in the Saracens. God forbid people stand up to abuse by a Government who only gave rights to Protestants and denied Catholics housing, public jobs and said their votes only counted as 1/5th of the Protestant vote. Shame on them. They should have respected the Queen and her undying support of those who saw her as the Head of their Religion.
Those facts are not disputed. The people who were treated that way have my sympathy.

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Their job? Their job was to shoot to kill and they did, they shot unarmed civilians.
It is not how they would see it. Can you honestly say these people were not activists? If they were unarmed, that is wrong. But they were involved in what was regarded as terrorist activity.

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Of course the SAS and any British solider was a legitimate target, they have been since 1172 AD. That has never changed. They "enforced" laws that were unjust. Surely, if the Irish Defense Force went to the UK took over and said you can't vote because you are Scottish, English and Welsh.. wonder how well that would go over? I am guessing, Your Highlanders, the Posh C**** from the London and the Sheep fvckers would turn around and do the same thing.
Sheep fvckers? We prefer the term sheep shaggers.

They did come to Scotland. As you know, the Scots have worked to deal with this injustice by political means.

The Labour Party has not been lead by an Englishman for years now. Neil Kinnock was Welsh (so even the Welsh have caught onto the idea that you have to get one of your own to the top of the political tree in order to get these annoying English gits out of your country's business) John Smith was the next leader and was a Scot, followed by Blair, another Scot and now Gordon Brown yet another Scot.

Nobody died to acquire this power.

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Who's law? They were above English and Irish Law (until 1985) as they didn't recognize them as legitimate Governing bodies per the Proclamation of 1916. Hell, I don't recognize English rule over Northern Ireland and this is 2008.
I understand where you're coming from, but this is sticking your head in the sand. It is the law. I don't accept it is right, but I don't accept the violent way is going to work for the Irish. It is just distracting attention from the real way to acquire power, which is by political means.

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Of sins are always committed in war. I don't deny that. But fair game is bitch and the IRA did it better then the Loyalist and the British Army.



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Nobody was innocent. Loyalist were just as guilty as Nationalist/Republicans.. The British Government was guilty for providing weapons and training to the Loyalist.
Why would they do that? What reason did they have to train loyalists?

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The British Government didn't protect the Catholics who were burned out of their homes. From the ashes of Bombay Street rose the Provisionals.
Again, I understand the injustice of that situation. It is not disputed.

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Good for you.. but I can tell you, they weren't C&E officers during the 70's, 80's as the British Army and the RUC were running the check points.
Yes...they were there at that time. They are now both retired.

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Sucks to be those people, but again, if you think that you can use terror against the Irish and it not be brought back to the England, you are living in a fairy tale. It was only after the England campaign did your Government start taking them seriously and start to realize that eye for an eye works both ways, oh and you didn't want your Economy to collapse. BTW which one.
BTW which one what?

It was not going to stop with England though, was it? It is known that the IRA had a hitlist which included Scottish targets.

And as you know, other countries have been subjugated by English arrogance and have found non-violent ways to outflank them.

Do you not see that the violence is playing straight into their hands? While the Irish are mindlessly running about involving themselves in that pointless crap, no political progress is made and that is the real way for them to gain power over these gits...

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I enjoyed watching the Manchester bombing (which happened on My Birthday). After that Manchester got a sweet downtown.
Jonathan Ball was 3 years old.

He was a beautiful child. He was shopping for a Mother's Day gift.

Tim Parry was ****ing 12 years old Finny. 12. Ring any bells with you, that particular age?

My aunt lives in Manchester and has 2 children. She used that shopping centre every week. I have shopped there myself, with her.

Your statement turns my stomach. I will not be watching your link.

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Yeah.. because the RUC/PSNI/British Army really got a hold of old Slab (Thomas Murphy) living right on the border.
These people can be known, but reasons exist to leave them be. It is a mistake to underestimate any government department. They work in mysterious ways and their reasons exist but are not obvious. They get around to dealing with things in their own sweet time.

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Did I say they were? No. So take that argument elsewhere.
Yes. I may do that.

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