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This is about you telling me the truth.
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And what have I said that isn't true in this topic? Not one damn thing.
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The SAS captured/killed people regarded as terrorists. This is indeed shocking news. But was that not their job? And would the same people not regard any SAS officer a legitimate target for killing?
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Oh yes, they were regarded as that because your ignorant political leaders were dumbfounded when a group of people said enough with shooting protesters (Bloody Sunday) and running over kids in the Saracens. God forbid people stand up to abuse by a Government who only gave rights to Protestants and denied Catholics housing, public jobs and said their votes only counted as 1/5th of the Protestant vote. Shame on them. They should have respected the Queen and her undying support of those who saw her as the Head of their Religion.
Their job? Their job was to shoot to kill and they did, they shot unarmed civilians.
Of course the SAS and any British solider was a legitimate target, they have been since 1172 AD. That has never changed. They "enforced" laws that were unjust. Surely, if the Irish Defense Force went to the UK took over and said you can't vote because you are Scottish, English and Welsh.. wonder how well that would go over? I am guessing, Your Highlanders, the Posh C**** from the London and the Sheep fvckers would turn around and do the same thing.
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Did the IRA remain above the law? Is this the saints v the sinners, where the saints commit no sin?
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Who's law? They were above English and Irish Law (until 1985) as they didn't recognize them as legitimate Governing bodies per the Proclamation of 1916. Hell, I don't recognize English rule over Northern Ireland and this is 2008.
Of sins are always committed in war. I don't deny that. But fair game is bitch and the IRA did it better then the Loyalist and the British Army.
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What you say is that the SAS acted in contravention of international law and clearly if what you say is accurate, this is something they should have avoided. However, in a situation like that - which people with IRA affiliations are fond of referring to as war rather than terrorism, when it works to justify IRA lawbreaking - this may have been a necessary judgement call in order to protect innocent people from being bombed.
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Nobody was innocent. Loyalist were just as guilty as Nationalist/Republicans.. The British Government was guilty for providing weapons and training to the Loyalist.
The British Government didn't protect the Catholics who were burned out of their homes. From the ashes of Bombay Street rose the Provisionals.
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Uhhh, not sure what this means, but Immigration and C&E are two completely different government departments.
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I threw them together. Deal with it.
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The word is excising, you tool  |
Exercising your duty (tax aka excising). Geez..
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And nothing has to be cleared for you to be stopped and checked out. I personally know C&E officers who were held at gunpoint on the border by such people and suffered nervous breakdown because of it. I also personally know two people whose office buildings were bombed and destroyed by Irish terrorists. That department has responsibility on the border regardless of your theory.
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Good for you.. but I can tell you, they weren't C&E officers during the 70's, 80's as the British Army and the RUC were running the check points.
Sucks to be those people, but again, if you think that you can use terror against the Irish and it not be brought back to the England, you are living in a fairy tale. It was only after the England campaign did your Government start taking them seriously and start to realize that eye for an eye works both ways, oh and you didn't want your Economy to collapse. BTW which one.
I enjoyed watching the
Manchester bombing (which happened on My Birthday). After that Manchester got a sweet downtown.
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If there is no reason to stop you, you may be allowed to move freely. This does not mean you are not observed. You can be comfortably observed from several miles off...the government knows about technology and that is public knowledge.
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Yeah.. because the RUC/PSNI/British Army really got a hold of old Slab (Thomas Murphy) living right on the border.
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This does not mean the IRA is blameless and the UK government is completely to blame.
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Did I say they were? No. So take that argument elsewhere.