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Originally Posted by Space_Coyote
And your principle of highlighting those castes and basing government policy on them does nothing to break them and everything to affirm them. We've had a progressive tax structure since God knows when, always with the wealthiest *insert single digit number* paying nearly half of the government's expenses and yet SOMEHOW the poor stay poor. No matter what you've been TOLD, the Bush taxcuts actually gave a 37% cut to the POOR and thus benefitted them even more than the "richest Americans" (households making over $90k included mind you) who only received a cut of around 32%. Progessive taxation does NOTHING to further your cause of economic equality (which is a losing proposition by the way, ask history, it'll tell you), and in fact is demonstrably detrimental to that end.
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90% of all wealth is controlled by 3% of the people.
If the 3% are paying 40% of all taxes then 60% of all taxes is coming out of 10% of the wealth.
And that is with a progressive tax system.
If you go to a flat tax then the 3% are only paying 15% of the taxes which means that 85% of all taxes comes out of 10% of the wealth.
In both cases the poor and middle class are paying the lions share of taxes while making much less money.
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Originally Posted by Space_Coyote
Agreed, tax the poor people who use social services disporportionately. Rich people don't benefit from governmental services, so you're right, they shouldn't pay the most into that system. You made my case for me. However, since the rich (and everybody else) DO benefit from free markets and low taxes, perhaps they should pay some measure of compensation.......ike say a flat tax of a low rate equal to all other EQUAL citizens? Yeah, good call man, you're so smart, I wish I'da thought of that.
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Your system does not create equality it increases the tax burden for the majority of people while decreasing the tax burden of the rich. The American dream should not be to steal your way into the 3% where you never have to worry again. While the masses pay the costs for all the resources your money uses.
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Originally Posted by Space_Coyote
Right. By making everybody legal equals, eliminating tax loopholes through simplification of the code, and pushing an aggregate drop in government expenditures my policy would cement existing class structures that are based on legal inequalities, loopholes in taxation, a complicated tax code, and massive government spending. Can I buy pot from you? Seems to me that your policy of progessive taxation has been doing just fine, why should I help out? Fact is that flat taxation and limited government spending represent the only sane and workable tax plan to have ever graced humanity with its presence. Unfortunately, corrupt politicians and know-nothings like Obama and McCain get bleeding-heart do-gooders like yourself to vote for them based on a system of gifts and blaming others for shared problems. Thank God for the informed electorate who have done so very much to PLUNGE this nation into fiscal insolvency. Great job champ, keep on voting for entitlements and voodoo economics, see where it gets ya.
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Blah blah blah
I have heard the flat tax arguments before and they still don't impress me.
A flat tax is just another way for those with money to keep more of it.