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Old 06-16-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Magnvs View Post
The following video is an excerpt from the documentary Jesus Camp, which I will be looking at to assess homeschooling in America: YouTube - scene from jesus camp

This video alarms me in several areas, so I want to discuss them with everybody else. I'd like everyone to look at these few points and comment on them, agreeing or disagreeing as you see fit.

1. "The Big Bang - is it based upon.... a BELIEF?"

To me, this is a complete switcharoo. The Big Bang has scientific evidence that leans toward it. No, it's not certain, but it's generally accepted as being pretty close to how the universe was formed, if not the answer itself. On the other hand, Creationism (aka Religion) is a belief that comes from an ancient book. Do they realize that they have it backwards? I can't tell if they're being dishonest or if they're really that deluded.

2. "One popular thing to do in American politics is to note that the summers in the United States over the past few years have been very warm. As a result, Global Warming must be real."

The mother seems to think that she's preparing her son for intellectual debates in the future. Now, besides the fact that everything they're doing is totally despicable, even within their own ballpark she is doing him harm. When he grows up and encounters REAL scientists, he may find that his Bible school studies aren't as helpful as the fake scenarios he was pitched his whole life. This is also why I disagree with homeschooling in general - cloistering is not a solution, and I say that on their behalf, for their own mega-religious purposes.

3. "Did you get to the part on here that says that science doesn't prove anything?"

...No comment.

4. "Our nation was founded on Judaeo-Christian values. We know when things started changing, you know, prayer got taken out of school, and.. the school started falling apart."

I vote we prosecute the woman for child abuse, educational abuse, and treason. Now, I'm aware that public schools are in dire need of reform, so I'm hesitant to criticize homeschooling very openly, but this is a classic example of brainwashing and it NEEDS TO BE STOPPED. Even if they were teaching their kids properly, they still wouldn't be preparing them because all the "scenarios" from their little workbooks do not accurately reflect real life problems.

5. *smug look* "Our firm belief is, there are two kinds of people in the world... people who love Jesus and people who don't. And I want my kids to grow up knowing, you know what? It's a good thing to be a Christian!"

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
From my personal experience homeschooled students come out one of two ways, either extremely religious (as in the case you pointed out) or extremely smart (like get B.A. in molecular egineering by 15).

Unfortunately, you can't stop this brain washing, even if you force the students to go to school, they still have to live with their parents and so are going to spend more time with them than at school, and the parents will just find a private school that will do the 'dirty' work for them. The only 'solution' is one that I'm not about to take, and that is dictating to parents what they can and cannot tell their children. It's none of my business what some werido down the street is teaching their children, so long as it's not training them to physically harm anyone.
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