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And just who the hell gets to decide what "properly" means in this context? You? A bunch of damned government-loving nanny staters who are so incapable of taking care of themselves that they have to rely on government to take care of them from cradle to grave?
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Society does, why can't you seperate that from government. Society is the community, that means you and your fellow people.
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No, it's a major part of the issue. People like you think that government should take care of you from cradle to grave and that people (whether they want to or not) must surrender everything they have and are to the government.
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You obviously have no idea what I think and can't talk about anything other than "nanny state this" and "nanny state that."
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NOT! I read the school records of many of these kids - including the test results. A great many of them can't read beyond a sixth grade level and almost none can read at a 12th grade level.
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What defines "12th grade level"? A 12th grader in a public school is at a 12th grade reading level. If he sucks at reading that just means that the 12th grade reading level is really low. His reading level is the definition of a "12th grade reading level" so he can't not be at it. There are few right out of highschool that don't have that degree of reading. There are many that 20 years down the road don't have that degree of reading, because they don't need it for their jobs and so have forgotten it. The same goes for math, science and history. What you don't use, you forget.
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No, you're talking about having the government do it for you just because my parenting doesn't meet your approval.
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Oh my goodness. No one, not even the government, is talking about stealing your child, get over it.
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Like hell it does! The Puritans tried that crap and look what happened: the Salem witch hunts!
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Different time, different culture, different understandings. Now-a-days we don't burn people at the stakes and we don't think that girls that know math are witches.