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Originally Posted by Oregon Elephant
If someone doesn't properly raise their child, it becomes society's problem (they go to jail and the tax payers have to pay for them), if the child is raised properly, than they benefit society, therefore society has a stake in it for the kids to be properly raised and that includes getting a proper education.
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And just who the hell gets to decide what "properly" means in this context? You? A bunch of damned government-loving nanny staters who are so incapable of taking care of themselves that they have to rely on government to take care of them from cradle to grave?
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Ah, yes, the meaningless rant of "I'm going to attack you now, rather than the issue."
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No, it's a major part of the issue. People like you think that government should take care of you from cradle to grave and that people (whether they want to or not) must surrender everything they have and are to the government.
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Very few. Those right out of school almost all can read beyond a 6th grade level, and most can find any major city on a map (within 50 miles or so). Now how many 40 year olds have forgotten much of that stuff because they haven't used it in 20+ years is a different story.
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NOT! I read the school records of many of these kids - including the test results. A great many of them can't read beyond a sixth grade level and almost none can read at a 12th grade level.
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I'm not talking about stealing your child out of his room in the middle of the night, calm down.
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No, you're talking about having the government do it for you just because my parenting doesn't meet your approval.
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If you want to leave completely individually, then go live in the wilderness where your actions effect you and no one else, and where no one else can do anything to you. But so long as you are a member of society, you are a part of society and society has a duty to protect and look out for your well being, and your child's well being.
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Like hell it does! The Puritans tried that crap and look what happened: the Salem witch hunts!
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"Why?" asks the confused waiter, as the panda makes toward the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
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