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Originally Posted by Technocratic_Utilitarian
This statement's as absurd as saying child abuse is their choice to make. Don't be ridiculous. Whether through stupidity, ignorance, or malice, it is neglectful and harms their children unreasonable. If it kills them, they ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and any other children removed from their care and put into state custody. They are a danger to children and unfit parents.
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Beating your child is quite different than choosing how to raise them and treat them. Don't be ridiculous. If they die because of it then that is a pity and that is that. Any other children should be left in the care of their parents. The state should stay the hell out of it. They are the children of the parents not you or the state. If they feel alternative medicine is the best choice that is there choice to make until the child can make that choice for hisself/herself
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Originally Posted by Technocratic_Utilitarian
Irrelevant whose kids they are. My neighbour isn't min, but I won't tolerate him murdering people either nor killing people by neglectful behaviour. Moreover, refusing vaccines for bogus reasons hurts society by diminishing herd immunity, putting the health and lives of others at risk. When you begin to impact society, it becomes society's business. Next.
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Completely relevant. It is there child. It is not murder either, not even close. It is just a parent making choices about raising their child. You can raise your own kid, don't try and tell others how to raise theirs. To bad for society, society is not as important as the individual. It is their freedom to do so. Next. (See I can use silly phrases too.)
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Originally Posted by Technocratic_Utilitarian
If they die because you deliberately refused to get them sound medical care, it's tantamount to killing them through neglect. If you know what the likely consequences will be anyway, and you continue to do it, you are an unfit parent putting the health of your child in jeopardy. If you kill them by denying them proper medical care, whether you are just stupid or ignorant, you are being neglectful and failing to take reasonable precautions to prevent harm. You're a sick individual that you want parents to be able to effectively kill their children. Then again, you are libertarian. I am not surprised. They have a very poor grasp of ethics.
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What you consider sound may not be what the child's parents consider sound. It is just them making a choice on how to raise their child. It is their right and freedom to choose how to treat and raise their child. I know I am sick for wanting parents to have freedom over their own child, I am such a bastard.
Back off the insults buddy. You are the one with no grasp of ethics, you want everyone to follow yours.
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Did you even bother to think before you typed this out? Apparently not too much. You might as well cut out the b.s. freedom rhetoric and state what you really mean: "parents shouldn't be forced to take care of their kids, and if they kill them, oh well, too bad so sad!" According to this logic, parents shouldn't be held accountable and "forced" to treat their children. If they just don't feel like it, or if they ignore all sound medical care and use 'prayer', and the kid dies, it's all hunky dory. That's retarded, sorry.
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Damn freedom. That is just such an evil concept. Not enforcing views on everyone else. I guess I should really switch over to totalitarian.
I am sorry your insults are sooo much better than anything I could every type. Parents should not be forced to raise/take care of THEIR child the way YOU want them to. If they feel alternative medicine is the way to go you should stay the hell out of it. If they think praying will do it then that is fine by me as well. Tell them that the are wrong if you want, but it is their choice and their freedom. Go have your own kid and raise it. I think the same about your views don't worry.